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The best way anyone here as put this. Well done, @talos7. Couldn't agree more.
Steve McQueen was also a character, bad temper, womaniser with a impostor syndrome and a huge chip on his shoulder. Still, he is the King of Cool. There's only one Tom Cruise. He's consistently awesome. And I do try not to use that word very often. But he is, awesome.
Cool stunt. Can’t say it’s getting me all that hyped. But I’m probably just in shock over how good AVATAR: THE WAY OF WATER surprised me.
Yes!
He’s more likely thanking his lucky stars that he got to perform those stunts himself rather than a movie star.
This. Bond used to set the bar, now M:I is doing that.
It’s partly due to the fact that EON keeps hiring art house directors. Not ones good with action.
I’d argue it’s not exactly a prerequisite for Bond. That emphasis on the one “signature stunt” didn’t really kick off until Roger Moore’s films, and has been infrequent since. Movies like DN and FRWL didn’t need Bond to skydive to thrill audiences. Whatever issues I may have with movies like TWINE or QOS, the lack of a world breaking signature stunt is among my lowest concerns.
That’s not how it works. It all comes down to second unit directors and the editors they’re paired with.
The action in CR and SF works because they have the combined powers of Alexander Witt and Stuart Baird. And then you get SP, while Witt is still directing the action, editor Lee Smith unfortunately neutered it from its potential.
All that action fans like from 80s Bond films? Thank Arthur Wooster, who gets way too overlooked because fans think it’s all John Glen.
For me, the Spectre pre-title sequence is classic Bond action. That whole business with the helicopter is very exciting, even if it has shades of other Bond films. I love how Bond is dealing with Sciarra, the pilot and the helicopter at the same time. The crowd panicking on the square. The music. The Bond theme brass stab after he avoids crashing into the ground.
I also love the explosion and falling down of the building. It's mayhem that's both fun and funny.
I agree it’s not ‘the greatest stunt in movie history’ - I think the plane one was more impressive to be honest, and the Burj Kalifa probably remains untoppable in truth, but it’s still a great stunt and will probably look amazing thanks to the new ways they have of shooting it.
The Goldeneye stunt is great, but instantly undermined by the terrible shot of Brosnan on a green screen.
I can't wait to see that stunt in MI7 in Imax. It's going to be incredible, Cruise keeps raising the bar
And to be fair, to some extent the plane stunt in Rogue Nation is similar: it doesn’t have much importance and the music kind of tries to make it a bit boring. It’s such an impressive stunt that it still pulls through, but the film could have made more of it.
The bike scene in NTTD and the plane in Rogue Nation are prime examples. Both of those films end up having more memorable moments by default because you're kind of surprised by other things when you end up seeing them, helped by the fact that both take place near the beginning of the film.
Fallout had the same issue, to be fair. A massive deal was made about the HALO jump yet it's my least favourite action sequence in the film. I found all of the others more thrilling.
Didn't bond do something just as impressive as Burj Kalifa and the plane? @mtm
Even with NTTD, as rarely as I tried to watch those trailers, I felt like I had seen the bridge jump, the bike stunt, and nearly all of the Norway chase by the time the film released.
Hasn't Bond done stunts just as impressive? I hate when it's turned into a competition.
No, I don't think there's anything as impressive stuntwise in Bond as the climbing of the tallest building in the world. However, that doesn't make Ghost Protocol a better film than Skyfall.
What about the spy who loved me ski jump or the moonraker opening or the crocodile stunt there are more dangerous stunts than climbing a building? Or the stuff in the living daylights?
I don’t know if I’d totally agree; I think that jump sequence was a properly exciting set piece. The main let down was the CG sky in it, but I guess there was no way around it for the story.
It’s not really a matter of supporting one team over the other; we can all watch any movies we like, so the only winner is us.
They're very impressive undoubtedly (the plane stuff in TLD is among my favourite stunts of all time) but I wouldn't say they're as good as "climbing a building". If we're going to use that sort of rhetoric then all they did in TSWLM was just "ski off a cliff".
My point is that Bond is more than just about stunts and they should capitalise on that rather than try outdo Cruise, who gives the audience for M:I exactly what they want from those films.
Your saying the stunts competition is subjective? @mtm
I’m saying that seeing it as a competition at all is a little pointless. They’re both terrific and I own all of each series on disc and enjoy them both. I don’t need to pick which is best.
It didn't really do it for me in comparison with the other stuff in the film, unfortunately. It was good, but I don't think the impact of it matched the song and dance that was made of it beforehand. I got much more enjoyment out of the bathroom fight, for example. But, at the end of the day, we're talking about a film full of great sequences so it's a fairly minor criticism in the grand scheme.