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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2018 Posts: 23,883
    I don't think there are slim pickings to replace DC. There never is with James Bond because it's the character that is the draw. Additionally, I personally think he's overdue to be replaced.

    Cruise is a different animal entirely. MI revolves around him. He is MI and he is a megastar. The character is a bit of a cipher despite attempts to flesh him out recently.

    I would not put Craig in that league, despite what he is currently being paid to be James Bond.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited February 2018 Posts: 15,715
    Another possible option for the M:I franchise post-Tom Cruise is to cast an Asian lead as his replacement. The franchise isn't very tied and/or centered to North America - not since the 3rd film in 2006 had a lot of screen-time in the US. Both Tom Cruise and the franchise is already very popular in Asia, so they probably won't need much tinkering with the characters/storylines to cater for an Asian lead - a small backstory included in dialogue will suffice. Just keep the other actors for familiarity (Rebecca Fergusson, Simon Pegg, etc).

    My 2 suggestions would be either

    Lee Byung-Hun (although he is turning 48 years old in 2018)
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    Or Iko Uwais

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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2018 Posts: 23,883
    That is an interesting suggestion @DaltonCraig007, and arguably they have veered so far from the original tv series template that it wouldn't matter. Good point re: the MI film's success overseas as well. Since they rely very much on stunts and action, I can see that working, or at least having an Asian megastar on the team.
  • patbpatb
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    Not sure as a direct replacement but makes sense as a new team member. Especially if they can do their own stunts to continue the tradition of MI.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Exactly. Some of these Asian stars are doing groundbreaking stuff when it comes to fights and stunts, but we don't see much of it in the Western markets.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited February 2018 Posts: 15,715
    What I really like with the franchise is that the continuity is both very loose (you can introduce a newcomer with any of the 5 films and he/she won't have any trouble following the characters and storyline despite not having seen the previous films), but in the same time there is enough subtle throwbacks (the keyring of Ilsa Faust at the beginning of Rogue Nation when she helps Hunt escapes is a rabbit foot - the item Hunt is trying to find in the 3rd film) and/or mentions to past films (Luther mentioning the Langley heist of the 1st film in M:I:3) that watching them in order is very fun as you can pick up many references to prior outings. So continuity won't cause any issues (unless they make a ham-fist job of it) if they decide to either cast a new actor as the lead or promote a current member to the lead - i.e. Ilsa Faust as @ClarkDevlin, @patb and @bondjames are suggesting.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Lee Byung-Hun would make a magnificent team member. Just see the guy in RED 2, and Karl Urban in RED (2010) for a hero mode. Put these guys together in a room, and they'll massacre an entire mob of Yakuza, Mafia, Camorra, and Ninjas combined into one force.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I just realized that FF does this team thing very well and is a massive global success. So it can be done and it can work. A more mature take on it (in comparison to FF) is what they perhaps should strive for.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I just realized that FF does this team thing very well and is a massive global success. So it can be done and it can work. A more mature take on it (in comparison to FF) is what they perhaps should strive for.
    +1
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I prefer any Craig Bond to any MI. Any MI over any Brosnan Bond, though.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Brosnan>M:I>Craig

    ;)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Brosnan>M:I>Craig

    ;)

    I find that really offensive. If only I were a mod...
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Brosnan>M:I>Craig
    ;)
    I find that really offensive. If only I were a mod...
    You should be appointed to the head of SMERSH. ;)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I do get to moderate Russia.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,715
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    I do get to moderate Russia.

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Tell me, @Thunderfinger, how much time do I have left? How long is it till I depart this world?
  • noSolaceleftnoSolaceleft
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    What I really like with the franchise is that the continuity is both very loose (you can introduce a newcomer with any of the 5 films and he/she won't have any trouble following the characters and storyline despite not having seen the previous films), but in the same time there is enough subtle throwbacks (the keyring of Ilsa Faust at the beginning of Rogue Nation when she helps Hunt escapes is a rabbit foot - the item Hunt is trying to find in the 3rd film) and/or mentions to past films (Luther mentioning the Langley heist of the 1st film in M:I:3) that watching them in order is very fun as you can pick up many references to prior outings. So continuity won't cause any issues (unless they make a ham-fist job of it) if they decide to either cast a new actor as the lead or promote a current member to the lead - i.e. Ilsa Faust as @ClarkDevlin, @patb and @bondjames are suggesting.

    There once was a franchise about a fellow named James bond which used exactly this approach ( maybe even invented it ). I wonder what ever happened to them?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Tell me, @Thunderfinger, how much time do I have left? How long is it till I depart this world?

    You have the rest of your life.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Tell me, @Thunderfinger, how much time do I have left? How long is it till I depart this world?
    You have the rest of your life.
    Ah, so this is the first day of the rest of my life.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Tell me, @Thunderfinger, how much time do I have left? How long is it till I depart this world?
    You have the rest of your life.
    Ah, so this is the first day of the rest of my life.

    There are worse things than dying, hombre.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    00Agent wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Tell me, @Thunderfinger, how much time do I have left? How long is it till I depart this world?
    You have the rest of your life.
    Ah, so this is the first day of the rest of my life.
    There are worse things than dying, hombre.
    Dying ain't much of a living, either. ;)
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,185
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Tell me, @Thunderfinger, how much time do I have left? How long is it till I depart this world?
    You have the rest of your life.
    Ah, so this is the first day of the rest of my life.
    There are worse things than dying, hombre.
    Dying ain't much of a living, either. ;)

    Potential title for B25? lol
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    00Agent wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Tell me, @Thunderfinger, how much time do I have left? How long is it till I depart this world?
    You have the rest of your life.
    Ah, so this is the first day of the rest of my life.
    There are worse things than dying, hombre.
    Dying ain't much of a living, either. ;)
    Potential title for B25? lol
    Directed by Clint Eastwood? :))
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Cruise and his Mission Impossible films are held in such high regard EON should definitely capitalize on that.

    So the obvious title for BOND 25:

    MI6.

    (And they can still use the "This Time It's Personal" tag line.)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Cruise and his Mission Impossible films are held in such high regard EON should definitely capitalize on that.

    So the obvious title for BOND 25:

    MI6.

    (And they can still use the "This Time It's Personal" tag line.)

    They should reuse the Ghost Protocol poster, changing nothing but the title.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Cruise and his Mission Impossible films are held in such high regard EON should definitely capitalize on that.

    So the obvious title for BOND 25:

    MI6.

    (And they can still use the "This Time It's Personal" tag line.)
    :))
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Just finished MI:3. I'm afraid I'm going to have to knock this one down to last in my ranking because I didn't enjoy it as much as my viewing of MI:2 yesterday.

    The reasons: Too much bloody angst. Everyone is running around as if they're going to burst a blood vessel (especially Cruise). Not cool. In fact, I think they forgot the 'cool' in this film and they also forgot about 'atmosphere' as well. Instead, it's all action interspersed with mushy sap. Additionally, such action is edited in that schizophrenic manner which was all the rage back then due to Bourne's success. The Chesapeake Bay Bridge–Tunnel attack in particular is such an interesting concept on paper. I mean, they had a helicopter and a drone attack there, and the editing makes it all seem less than it was. Locations are poorly utilized as well, including Shanghai and the Vatican. Abrams makes this one feel like a right soap opera at times, which is regrettable.

    Having said that, there's stuff to like too. Michael Giacchino's score is very good and Philip Seymour Hoffman is outstanding as Owen Davian. The manner in which he calmly confronts Hunt on the plane is creepy. The plot is fine as well. I wasn't too keen on Laurence Fishburne or Billy Crudrup's characters. Jonathan Rhys Meyer and Maggie Q didn't make too much of an impression either, although Q is very easy on the eyes.

    I'm glad they changed course for MI:4.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    MI:3 is my least favorite, as well. I don't care much for its cinematography, either. Camera shots feel TV-ish, and from what I remember, the image contrast is too high, and the colors too saturated.

    On the plus side, the opening scene is great. It conveys very well the idea that Ethan is utterly powerless, and that nothing he can say will change the situation.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2018 Posts: 23,883
    mattjoes wrote: »
    MI:3 is my least favorite, as well. I don't care much for its cinematography, either. Camera shots feel TV-ish, and from what I remember, the image contrast is too high, and the colors too saturated.
    You're absolutely right about the saturation. I thought it was just my blu ray copy.
    mattjoes wrote: »
    On the plus side, the opening scene is great. It conveys very well the idea that Ethan is utterly powerless, and that nothing he can say will change the situation.
    It does set the tone, definitely. Unfortunately, it's not a tone I appreciate, because the angst is there right from the start. I had a similar uncomfortable (icky) feeling during SP when Bond runs toward Blofeld to stop the release of the White video ("turn it off!!!!") and during the ensuing scream torture. Not my cup of tea I'm afraid. I like my heroes in control or at least calm under pressure (as Hunt was when captured in MI:RN or like how Bond was while his bollocks were being crushed in CR).
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I like my heroes in control
    Then you must have hated when Indy was in a trance in Temple Of Doom, I assume-?
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