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I agree regarding the quality of the action sequences in TWINE. Perhaps I'm nostalgic for 90s and early 00s action, but these chases and shootouts truly are among my favorites in the series and a big part of the reason I love Brosnan's films so much. They're storyboarded for pure entertainment. There's something about each of these sequences (whether the Thames chase, the Parahawks chase, the bunker shootout, the caviar factory action, the submarine climax) that really delivers on all the thrills and the laughs, playing on just the right emotions at the right times. It's balletic almost in an explosiony way, and Arnold's propulsive and at times appropriately tongue-in-cheek action music underscores that all perfectly. I'd say this is all probably for another thread anyway, but everything I've written here applies to the action in TND as well.
As for TND vs TWINE, I’ll just say TND because it’s mercifully shorter, even if marginal. And I don’t have to think of the wasted potential as much.
Pryce puts in a very fun scenery chewing performance, and he has a couple of killer lines, but I still think they could’ve done more with the idea of Rupert Murdoch as a Bond villain. Sherlock did it better imo, and while it’s tough to compare Carver to Logan Roy from Succession (because one is in a Bond film, the other in a character focused drama), I think he comes across as much more ruthless and machiavellian too.
I love the Kauffman scene, where Bond finds Paris and then sees the news report about her death and his on the TV. That was brilliant. If we’d got more scenes like that and less machine gun fire then TND could be one of the best for me. As it stands, I thought they wasted a really cool premise (Bond vs Murdoch, who’s married to a former Bond girl) on a pretty generic action film. Don’t get me wrong, I love a good dumb 80s/90s action flick. I even like Rambo 3. But I expect more from a Bond film, especially one with a premise like TND.
And that’s a view I would concur with. The parahawk sequence for instance should be a highlight but for me it’s easily and by some margin the dullest and least exciting ski based action scene in Bond.
Yeah I agree with a lot of that.Never seen Succession so I can’t comment on the Logan Roy comparison.I also think that if Monica Belucci had been cast as Paris Carver,I would have bought that relationship with Bond a bit more.
I think John Woo movies were all the rage in the mid nineties and the climax of TND is very reminiscent of those.Still think the movie is mostly great fun though.I consider it Pierces YOLT with TWINE being his FYEO.
:)) Well played.
Just looking at MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE 2 is proof that he would have made a more absurdly fun flick out of TND.
No. Just no. Bond doing a back flip face kick would have been terrible. Hunt gets away with it because Cruise was a gymnast.
TND is near perfect. Only casting Monica Bellucci as Paris Carver would have made it perfect.
Wai Lin: And what do you get?
Carver: Me? Oh, nothing. Just exclusive broadcasting rights in China for...
(Travolta voice)
...the next hundred years!
Unlike Captain America I don't understand that reference...
It's from Face/Off, directed by John Woo.
Oh, LOL, thanks! Okay, yeah...
Exactly. Woo has the distinction of making the single worst MI film. The only fun factor involved in watching it is doing an MST3K version of it with your friends where you laugh at the stupidity. Now Face/Off, that's completely bonkers absurd fun.
He could've had Bond and Wai Lin in a car spinning out and exchanging sexy looks in slow motion or in the Vietnam motorcycle chase Bond could've picked up a gun and do a 180 and shoot his pursuers without difficulty, also in slow motion.
What Woo did pull off with MI2 that the Bond series didn't was getting Anthony Hopkins to be in it.
I wish Brad Bird would do more live action. He would have been ideal for STAR TREK.
I'd say Broken Arrow and Face/Off would beg to differ there.
The car chase is a guilty pleasure of mine. I agree about the submarine climax being boring though.
As you can see I noted that Face Off was an exception.Didn’t care much for Broken Arrow.It really could have been made by any Hollywood action director.It didn’t really have any of Woos themes or motifs.
A submarine climax in TND? Wait- which TND? Is there one I haven't seen??