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I had completely forgotten about it, but I actually read that book many years ago. Don t remember much at all of it.
„The roar of the.45 shook the room. Charlotte staggered back a step. Her eyes were a symphony of incredulity, an unbelieving witness to truth. Slowly, she looked down at the ugly swelling in her naked belly where the bullet went in. "How c-could you?" she gasped. I had only a moment before talking to a corpse, but I got it in. "It was easy," I said.“
Source: https://quotepark.com/works/i-the-jury-13108/
I must admit that I get this film confused with 1944’s THE WOMAN IN THE WINDOW, as they both are directed by Fritz Lang and star Edward G. Robinson, Joan Bennett and Dan Duryea. Is that one any good @ToTheRight ?
THE WOMAN IN THE WINDOW is one I haven't seen yet, but I'll assume it's great and a film I'd love.
What is it? Love trouble or money trouble? Listen, Frankie, I've seen 'em all. I've seen all the troubles in the world and they boil down to just those two. You're broke or you're lonely. Or, both.
Is there a poorer “sap” that Christopher Cross (Edward G. Robinson) in all of film noir? Stuck in a loveless marriage to Adele (Rosalind Ivan) and in a “company man” position at the bank, he seems to be put upon by the world at large. [Still, I found myself laughing as Adele tells him to wash the dishes!] He appears to put up with one emasculating situation after another. In fact, he isn’t particularly upset when he finds out that Kitty March (Joan Bennett) has sold some of his paintings and has even taken credit for them. Only, when he realizes that Kitty has been having a relationship with Johnny (Dan Duryea) all along and tells him straight up that she views him as a pitiful old man, does he snap.
Note, from internet summaries SCARLET STREET does have a very similar vibe to WOMAN IN THE WINDOW (1944), except in that film Robinson wakes up and realizes that it is all a bad dream. Still, the end of the film does have a dream-nightmare like quality with him being haunted by the voices of Kitty and Johnny from beyond the grave. I really liked the way Fritz Lang has the sweet nothings of Bennett and Duryea invade Robinson’s head and drive him mad. The end of STREET finds him alone and homeless. And if he hadn’t suffered enough, the final scene has him witnessing his “self-portrait” painting of Kitty being sold for thousands of dollars. That’s some cold sh*t!!
Edward G. Robinson
As with Peter Lorre, my view of Edward G. Robinson is clouded by all of the parodies of him that I saw as a child. Need a gangster like character for Bugs Bunny to match wits with? Do a parody of Edward G. Robinson! (I’m especially fond of the Chauncey "Flat-Face" Frog caricature in the old Courageous Cat & Minute Mouse cartoons – which was itself, Bob Kane’s own spoof on his Batman characters).
Now having seen SCARLET STREET, I’m amazed with his range as an actor. I’m also amazed that he never won a competitive Academy Award.
Joan Bennett
Perhaps the most unredeemable femme fatale that I have seen thus far. She also clearly doesn’t like to keep a tidy apartment. “Lazy Legs” is a slob.
FYI: Ms. Bennett’s career was the subject of a “docu-drama” podcast series in 2021 called “Love Is a Crime.” Staring Zooey Deschanel as Bennett and Jon Hamm as her producer-husband Walter Wanger. While I’m sure long time film noir fans know the story, it was new to me. I’ve only listened to the intro episode, but the idea sounds promising.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/love-is-a-crime/id1578559817
Having seen SCARLET STREET, it is definitely an “Essential” Film Noir. Now, which film do I remove from my current list of essentials, or do I expand the list from twenty-five to thirty? Decisions, decisions!
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I always feel if he were playing Johnny Rocco he wouldn't put up with the belittling he goes thru here.
Feel bad for Eddie G. Great print TCM had of this film. My copies are the old public domain prints that turn up in noir DVD sets.
That's pretty cool.
1. OUT OF THE PAST (1947)
2. THE BIG SLEEP (1946)
3. THE POSTMAN ALWAYS RINGS TWICE (1946)
4. THE MALTESE FALCON (1941)
5. IN A LONELY PLACE (1950)
6. DETOUR (1946)
7. KISS ME DEADLY (1955)
8. ROAD HOUSE (1948)
9. RAW DEAL (1948)
10. HIS KIND OF WOMAN (1951)
11. LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN (1945)
12. LAURA (1944)
13. GILDA (1946)
14. THE BRIBE (1949)
15. JOHNNY EAGER (1941)
16. THIS GUN FOR HIRE (1942)
17. DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944)
18. THE KILLERS (1946)
19. MURDER MY SWEET (1944)
20. DON'T BOTHER TO KNOCK (1952)
21. CRISS CROSS (1949)
22. THE BIG COMBO (1955)
23. DARK PASSAGE (1947)
24. MACAO (1952)
25. KANSAS CITY CONFIDENTIAL (1952)
1. DETOUR (1946)
2. QUICKSAND (1950)
3. KANSAS CITY CONFIDENTIAL (1952)
4. THE STRANGER (1946)
5. THE STRANGE LOVE OF MARTHA IVERS (1946)
6. SCARLET STREET (1945)
7. TOO LATE FOR TEARS (1947)
8. WOMAN ON THE RUN (1950)
9. THE BIG COMBO (1955)
10. SUDDENLY (1954)
11. HOLLOW TRIUMPH (1948)
12. TRAPPED (1949)
13. THE HITCHHIKER (1953)
14. D.O.A (1949)
15. HE WALKED BY NIGHT (1948)
16. WHISTLE STOP (1946)
17. IMPACT (1949)
18. THE GREEN GLOVE (1952)
19. THE CHASE (1946)
20. BORDERLINE (1950)
RE: Your new top 25 list: that is a major turnover if I must say.
As for the public domain list, several of my favorites are listed (that aren't on my essentials list): THE STRANGER (1946), THE STRANGE LOVE OF MARTHA IVERS (1946) - what a cast! - THE BIG COMBO (1955) - Joseph Lewis's other masterpiece and HOLLOW TRIUMPH (1948).
On some DVD sets HOLLOW TRIUMPH is re-titled THE SCAR. I believe that may have been a reissue title.
I love the noirs in public domain, though some of the prints are of questionable quality.
FYI on Japanese Film Noir:
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/japanese-film-noir-guide-six-best-films/
Bogart with Dorothy Malone.
The actresses in this film are astonishingly attractive.
As for the actresses, one could make the case that THE BIG SLEEP was a proto-Bond film in that regard.
THE BIG SLEEP tend to tie with OUT OF THE PAST as my all time favorite film.
I have watched the same DVD of The Big Sleep for decades though saw it numerous times on TV from the late 70's onward.
Howard Hawks indeed selected proto Bond girls.
There's a lengthy scene in the DA's office that pretty much explains the plot. James Flavin's role in that scene ended up on the cutting room floor.
Howard Hawks had a good eye for the beauties. I liked Joy Barlow as the cab driver Bond.....uh I mean Bogie flirts with.
The most attractive cab driver I have ever seen :))
She's pretty cute. great rapport with Bogie, there. That scene is edited into a different spot in the 1945 pre-release version.
I definitely need to compare the versions to see which one I have, I have been thinking of getting the Bluray for some time I will buy that in any case.
The DVD releases I had contained both versions. Flipper disc - a version of each side.
I do prefer the regular 1946 cut as the additional scenes with Bogie and Bacall make the film, IMO.
A quick Bond connection with THE BIG SLEEP: Charles K. Feldman (of CR’67 fame) was Bacall’s agent at the time and he thought that Hawk’s initial edit of the film gave her too small a role. Apparently, her performance in CONFIDENTIAL AGENT (1945) – filmed after the BIG SLEEP, but released before – was criticized, and her career needed a boost.
Do you have any additional information on this @ToTheRight ? Thanks.
That about sums it up, @Dwayne. She was getting thrashed for her performance in CONFIDENTIAL AGENT and Feldman felt it important to salvage her career. He sent Jack Warner a detailed letter giving notes on the kind of scenes that might enhance her performance in THE BIG SLEEP. More scenes of sexual innuendo and banter with Bogie. They went back and refilmed some scenes adding witty dialogue a year after the film had been in the can.
THE BIG SLEEP's initial release had been delayed so Warner Bros could get their WWII themed movies out as the war was ending.
I can only surmise that the reason is the character arc of SUNSET BLVD’s chief protagonist (William Holden’s Joe Gillis):
In any case, the next issue of NOIR CITY Magazine with THE LAST SEDUCTION’s Linda Fiorentino seems interesting.
I'd say SUNSET BLVD counts as noir because Holden gets involved (against his better judgment) with a femme fatale and ends up dead in her pool. His corpse provides the traditional voice over narration.
Been ages since I watched ALL ABOUT EVE, which I mostly watched for Marilyn. Mostly felt like a drama to me, with noir potential, but I don't think I'd really call it noir.
Still, an excellent film I should revisit soon.
I have never properly watched All About Eve so can't give an opinion on that film.
Been 20 years since I've seen it, but it was pretty good.
As for Gloria Swanson’s Norma Desmond @Fire_and_Ice_Returns ; I don’t really see her as a femme fatale in the traditional sense. If anything, William Holden’s character (Joe Gillis) could be considered a homme fatale, in that he takes advantage of her.
Think about it, he’s on the run from his creditors and is hard up for cash, quickly realizes that while Norma is batsh*t crazy, she has plenty of cash. Thus, he decides to humor her for a few weeks to that he can earn money. Naturally, getting out of this situation proves to be much harder than getting into it. “No one ever leaves a STAR. That's what makes one a STAR!”
FYI: There is a nice profile of actress Nancy Olson-Livingston (Betty Schaefer) in the latest issue of The New Yorker. At age 94, she is the last surviving cast-member of SUNSET BLVD. A very interesting life I must say.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/outliving-norma-desmond-and-then-some
Great movie. I should revisit it soon.