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  • RevelatorRevelator
    Posts: 2,941
    Doing Bond as a period piece would be expensive (unless it was larded with CGI, but then it would look fake) and would result in lower box office. Amazon has no commercial reason to go for that.

    Similarly, the idea that big name directors like Nolan or Villeneuve can now get on the Bondwagon is doubtful. Would Amazon really give them far more creative control than the Broccolis would have? Not with an IP on Bond's scale.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited February 20 Posts: 4,628
    It'll be interesting seeing what kind of director/talent they can get. A massive part of Bond being in EON's hands was that they were so respected and could get some big name talent, especially by Craig's tenure. I personally can't see Nolan or even Villeneuve jumping into bed with these guys either, but we'll see.
  • km16km16
    Posts: 199
    007HallY wrote: »
    It'll be interesting seeing what kind of director/talent they can get. A massive part of Bond being in EON's hands was that they were so respected and could get some big name talent, especially by Craig's tenure. I personally can't see Nolan or even Villeneuve jumping into bed with these guys either, but we'll see.

    Jonathan Nolan works with Amazon at the moment on the Fallout series. If he were to get involved, it'd be an easy work around for Chris eventually, me thinks.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited February 20 Posts: 8,656
    Revelator wrote: »
    Doing Bond as a period piece would be expensive (unless it was larded with CGI, but then it would look fake) and would result in lower box office. Amazon has no commercial reason to go for that.

    Similarly, the idea that big name directors like Nolan or Villeneuve can now get on the Bondwagon is doubtful. Would Amazon really give them far more creative control than the Broccolis would have? Not with an IP on Bond's scale.

    Did you not see what DC let Snyder do to Superman or what Disney let Johnson do to Star Wars?! :-O
  • bondywondybondywondy Uk
    edited February 20 Posts: 448
    Christopher Nolan had a long term contract with Warner Bros. He fell out with WB when they put their new films online during covid. He's currently working with Universal. If he has a long term deal with Universal then he won't be making an Amazon Bond film. I couldn't find any information online if he's got a multi film deal contract with Universal. I'm guessing Universal would want to keep him for as long as possible!
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited February 20 Posts: 4,628
    km16 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    It'll be interesting seeing what kind of director/talent they can get. A massive part of Bond being in EON's hands was that they were so respected and could get some big name talent, especially by Craig's tenure. I personally can't see Nolan or even Villeneuve jumping into bed with these guys either, but we'll see.

    Jonathan Nolan works with Amazon at the moment on the Fallout series. If he were to get involved, it'd be an easy work around for Chris eventually, me thinks.

    Yeah, but Nolan wants a good deal of creative control and is busy with his own project. He also values a theatrical release (although I don't think Amazon will let Bond get a limited release then go to streaming just yet).
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Revelator wrote: »
    Doing Bond as a period piece would be expensive (unless it was larded with CGI, but then it would look fake) and would result in lower box office. Amazon has no commercial reason to go for that.

    Similarly, the idea that big name directors like Nolan or Villeneuve can now get on the Bondwagon is doubtful. Would Amazon really give them far more creative control than the Broccolis would have? Not with an IP on Bond's scale.

    Did you not see what DC let Snyder do to Superman or what Disney let Johnson do to Star Wars?! :-O

    Speaking of Star Wars, I feel if Amazon came out and said they're letting three established directors control their own but interconnected Bond trilogy (like the Star Wars trilogy) I'd be worried. That trilogy was an absolute disaster of storytelling. I actually didn't mind Johnson's one as much though.
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
    Posts: 749
    Does anyone have a rundown of how this even started? Did Amazon just gobble up EON's stock or something or was the sale inevitable since they bought MGM?
  • Ernst_Stavro_BezosErnst_Stavro_Bezos UK
    Posts: 1
    I think it's excellent news that Barbara Broccoli is no longer involved in the creative decisions. Her approach of making Bond films by committee has led to some extremely poor choices. Imagine how good Bond 25 could have been if she had just let Boyle and Hodge fulfil their vision of the film? It will also hopefully mean that Purvis and Wade are no longer involved in the writing process. It was extremely frustrating when she kept hiring them. They should have been binned off after the Die Another Day debacle. Hopefully Amazon will hire Christopher Nolan and give him and his team everything they need to create a first-rate Bond film. No more making Bond films by committee!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,963
    Ernst_Stavro_Bezos wrote: »
    No more making Bond films by committee!
    I'd take by committee over by political pressure.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    Posts: 1,615
    007HallY wrote: »
    It'll be interesting seeing what kind of director/talent they can get. A massive part of Bond being in EON's hands was that they were so respected and could get some big name talent, especially by Craig's tenure. I personally can't see Nolan or even Villeneuve jumping into bed with these guys either, but we'll see.
    At least there is that possibility. Two days ago we were talking about a possible return of Martin Campbell.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 4,628
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    It'll be interesting seeing what kind of director/talent they can get. A massive part of Bond being in EON's hands was that they were so respected and could get some big name talent, especially by Craig's tenure. I personally can't see Nolan or even Villeneuve jumping into bed with these guys either, but we'll see.
    At least there is that possibility. Two days ago we were talking about a possible return of Martin Campbell.

    Doesn't really have anything to do with what kind of talent EON can get, just that there's more a possibility of a film being made in the short term (maybe, we'll see when).
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,466
    Ernst_Stavro_Bezos wrote: »
    I think it's excellent news that Barbara Broccoli is no longer involved in the creative decisions. Her approach of making Bond films by committee has led to some extremely poor choices. Imagine how good Bond 25 could have been if she had just let Boyle and Hodge fulfil their vision of the film? It will also hopefully mean that Purvis and Wade are no longer involved in the writing process. It was extremely frustrating when she kept hiring them. They should have been binned off after the Die Another Day debacle. Hopefully Amazon will hire Christopher Nolan and give him and his team everything they need to create a first-rate Bond film. No more making Bond films by committee!

    "Bond 25" has a name.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,454
    Ernst_Stavro_Bezos wrote: »
    I think it's excellent news that Barbara Broccoli is no longer involved in the creative decisions. Her approach of making Bond films by committee has led to some extremely poor choices. Imagine how good Bond 25 could have been if she had just let Boyle and Hodge fulfil their vision of the film? It will also hopefully mean that Purvis and Wade are no longer involved in the writing process. It was extremely frustrating when she kept hiring them. They should have been binned off after the Die Another Day debacle. Hopefully Amazon will hire Christopher Nolan and give him and his team everything they need to create a first-rate Bond film. No more making Bond films by committee!

    Great username there, @Ernst_Stavro_Bezos. Welcome aboard!
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,381
    Why do I have the feeling that the big stationary chain just bought my local bookshop?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited February 20 Posts: 13,369
    https://deadline.com/2025/02/james-bond-deal-reactions-007-insiders-1236296552/

    Barbara Broccoli’s Close-Knit James Bond Circle Says Hearing 007 Deal News Was “As If There Had Been A Death In The Family”

    I think the reality is that you wouldn’t really want to hand over the family jewels to someone else when you … It’s obviously a massive decision, but I suppose you could say that it’s a natural point with the retirement of a Bond of an active Bond and the retirement of Michael who has been in, or what do you say, stepping back. But I mean basically him leaving the stage and then also the need to find a new Bond. Those things make it, and then this whole change of circumstances are just, they all add up together.”
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited February 20 Posts: 17,963
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ernst_Stavro_Bezos wrote: »
    I think it's excellent news that Barbara Broccoli is no longer involved in the creative decisions. Her approach of making Bond films by committee has led to some extremely poor choices. Imagine how good Bond 25 could have been if she had just let Boyle and Hodge fulfil their vision of the film? It will also hopefully mean that Purvis and Wade are no longer involved in the writing process. It was extremely frustrating when she kept hiring them. They should have been binned off after the Die Another Day debacle. Hopefully Amazon will hire Christopher Nolan and give him and his team everything they need to create a first-rate Bond film. No more making Bond films by committee!

    Great username there, @Ernst_Stavro_Bezos. Welcome aboard!

    Don't suck up too much there, bro.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,454
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ernst_Stavro_Bezos wrote: »
    I think it's excellent news that Barbara Broccoli is no longer involved in the creative decisions. Her approach of making Bond films by committee has led to some extremely poor choices. Imagine how good Bond 25 could have been if she had just let Boyle and Hodge fulfil their vision of the film? It will also hopefully mean that Purvis and Wade are no longer involved in the writing process. It was extremely frustrating when she kept hiring them. They should have been binned off after the Die Another Day debacle. Hopefully Amazon will hire Christopher Nolan and give him and his team everything they need to create a first-rate Bond film. No more making Bond films by committee!

    Great username there, @Ernst_Stavro_Bezos. Welcome aboard!

    Don't suck up too much there, bro.

    I'm just welcoming our new Supreme Leader.
  • NoTimeToLiveNoTimeToLive Jamaica
    Posts: 121
    km16 wrote: »
    Amazon has had some good quality products; The Boys and Fallout specifically come to mind as recent things.

    Never in a million years would I ever call The Boys good quality.
  • HitchBondUSAHitchBondUSA USA
    edited February 21 Posts: 185
    https://deadline.com/2025/02/james-bond-amazon-mgm-studios-deal-1236296104/ 1 billion it is i guess
    https://deadline.com/2025/02/james-bond-deal-reactions-007-insiders-1236296552/ it's like a death of a family member
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,963
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ernst_Stavro_Bezos wrote: »
    I think it's excellent news that Barbara Broccoli is no longer involved in the creative decisions. Her approach of making Bond films by committee has led to some extremely poor choices. Imagine how good Bond 25 could have been if she had just let Boyle and Hodge fulfil their vision of the film? It will also hopefully mean that Purvis and Wade are no longer involved in the writing process. It was extremely frustrating when she kept hiring them. They should have been binned off after the Die Another Day debacle. Hopefully Amazon will hire Christopher Nolan and give him and his team everything they need to create a first-rate Bond film. No more making Bond films by committee!

    Great username there, @Ernst_Stavro_Bezos. Welcome aboard!

    Don't suck up too much there, bro.

    I'm just welcoming our new Supreme Leader.

    LOL, I get it. White cat & all....
  • BondBond
    edited February 21 Posts: 506
    muzz100 wrote: »
    Lots of magical thinking but it will be carnage. Demographics innit. The WW2 legacy that infused the books is well over. It will be awful

    100% this...it's Amazon for cripes sake. Just a few months ago when the Babs Broccoli story leaked about her deriding Amazon, this lovely quote got out, made by one of Amazon's people during talks: “I have to be honest. I don't think James Bond is a hero.”

    This is going to be a total disaster and I think some are just in denial of what this really means for Bond. As others have said, there's no way Amazon is going to give even a big name director ANY creative control on this, they are going to fine tune every casting, writing, and narrative decision to tailor it for what they consider to be "modern audiences" and to maximize profit
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,963
    Bond wrote: »
    muzz100 wrote: »
    Lots of magical thinking but it will be carnage. Demographics innit. The WW2 legacy that infused the books is well over. It will be awful

    100% this...it's Amazon for cripes sake. Just a few months ago when the Babs Broccoli story leaked about her deriding Amazon, this lovely quote got out, made by one of Amazon's people during talks: “I have to be honest. I don't think James Bond is a hero.”

    This is going to be a total disaster and I think some are just in denial of what this really means for Bond. As others have said, there's no way Amazon is going to give even a big name director ANY creative control on this, they are going to fine tune every casting, writing, and narrative decision to tailor it for what they consider to be "modern audiences" and to maximize profit

    Yep. It's gotta sell in Asia & Russia. And they won't wanna piss off the American MAGA folks. So, generic action action hero time... remember how many here called TND a generic Bond? I wouldn't be surprised if that particular movie got removed from streaming because it's too close to Mr. Orange's activities....
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,366
    People can't help themselves... sigh
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,963
    talos7 wrote: »
    People can't help themselves... sigh

    From what?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,366
    chrisisall wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    People can't help themselves... sigh

    From what?

    Oh please, you know exactly what.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,963
    talos7 wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    People can't help themselves... sigh

    From what?

    Oh please, you know exactly what.

    From expecting the worst?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,456
    There was a dropoff between LTK and GE when various Eon collaborators left. GE was a copy of Bond's greatest hits.

    CR and SF (at the very least) corrected that problem, hugely. Bond felt relevant and individualistic.

    Now we are going to get a copy of a copy. Sigh.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    Posts: 2,906
    I apologize if this new Calvin Dyson video has already been posted.
    (mods: feel free to delete).

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 17,102
    echo wrote: »
    There was a dropoff between LTK and GE when various Eon collaborators left. GE was a copy of Bond's greatest hits.

    CR and SF (at the very least) corrected that problem, hugely. Bond felt relevant and individualistic.

    Now we are going to get a copy of a copy. Sigh.

    Yes, well put, I think you’re right.
  • HitchBondUSAHitchBondUSA USA
    Posts: 185
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Bond wrote: »
    muzz100 wrote: »
    Lots of magical thinking but it will be carnage. Demographics innit. The WW2 legacy that infused the books is well over. It will be awful

    100% this...it's Amazon for cripes sake. Just a few months ago when the Babs Broccoli story leaked about her deriding Amazon, this lovely quote got out, made by one of Amazon's people during talks: “I have to be honest. I don't think James Bond is a hero.”

    This is going to be a total disaster and I think some are just in denial of what this really means for Bond. As others have said, there's no way Amazon is going to give even a big name director ANY creative control on this, they are going to fine tune every casting, writing, and narrative decision to tailor it for what they consider to be "modern audiences" and to maximize profit

    Yep. It's gotta sell in Asia & Russia. And they won't wanna piss off the American MAGA folks. So, generic action action hero time... remember how many here called TND a generic Bond? I wouldn't be surprised if that particular movie got removed from streaming because it's too close to Mr. Orange's activities....

    Do we really need to bring politics in this let's get back to the subject 🤔 😕
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