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    QBranch wrote: »
    In LALD, an actor passed out from a snake being waved around in front of them. I presume it was Baines himself, and the fainting is seen in the film.

    I watched that scene last night. To me the snake looks fake. The character holding the snake has it by the head from one pov and below the head from another. When he touches the snake to the Baines' neck, there is no bite mark or blood.


  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    I'm planning to create an Iceberg meme for the bizarre Bond facts, anyone can help me in thinking some facts or trivia about Bond,but here's what I know so far:

    ...
    6. Gert Frobe's nazi connections and GF was banned in Israel.
    ...

    Feel free to add other facts.....🙂

    I don't know what an "Iceberg Meme" is supposed to be, but your description of the "Gert Fröbe Case" falls short. Fröbe had always admitted to having been a member of the Nazi Party before 1945 (many actors were - it was definitely not helpful in finding work if you weren't), and yes, indeed, when that came up upon GF's release it was banned or boycotted in Israel. However, what happened then was that a formerly German Jewish family came forward and testified that Fröbe actually saved their lives by hiding them from the Gestapo, and the ban was terminated. This is my recollection of what I read about this, but I'm sure you'll find a lot about this on the Web.

    I'm not excusing being a member of the NSDAP (my own mother was one), as much as I think that some day a lot of Russians will have to answer for not standing up to Putin (and let's not start about MAGA!), but just mentioning a Nazi connection and the ban falls short of the whole picture.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    I'm planning to create an Iceberg meme for the bizarre Bond facts, anyone can help me in thinking some facts or trivia about Bond,but here's what I know so far:

    ...
    6. Gert Frobe's nazi connections and GF was banned in Israel.
    ...

    Feel free to add other facts.....🙂

    I don't know what an "Iceberg Meme" is supposed to be, but your description of the "Gert Fröbe Case" falls short. Fröbe had always admitted to having been a member of the Nazi Party before 1945 (many actors were - it was definitely not helpful in finding work if you weren't), and yes, indeed, when that came up upon GF's release it was banned or boycotted in Israel. However, what happened then was that a formerly German Jewish family came forward and testified that Fröbe actually saved their lives by hiding them from the Gestapo, and the ban was terminated. This is my recollection of what I read about this, but I'm sure you'll find a lot about this on the Web.

    I'm not excusing being a member of the NSDAP (my own mother was one), as much as I think that some day a lot of Russians will have to answer for not standing up to Putin (and let's not start about MAGA!), but just mentioning a Nazi connection and the ban falls short of the whole picture.

    Thanks for the info! @j_w_pepper 🙂
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Christopher Lee was actually a cousin, and not a nephew, of Ian Fleming.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Christopher Lee was actually a cousin, and not a nephew, of Ian Fleming.

    Oh yes! A mistake of me! Thanks, I'm mistaken. 🙂
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Christopher Lee was actually a cousin, and not a nephew, of Ian Fleming.

    Oh yes! A mistake of me! Thanks, I'm mistaken. 🙂

    Not to worry. I think I'm right in saying that they were only cousins through marriage too and not blood cousins as such. I remember reading that in Christopher Lee's autobiography. Still, they were cousins nonetheless.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    I'm planning to create an Iceberg meme for the bizarre Bond facts, anyone can help me in thinking some facts or trivia about Bond,but here's what I know so far:

    ...
    6. Gert Frobe's nazi connections and GF was banned in Israel.
    ...

    Feel free to add other facts.....🙂

    I don't know what an "Iceberg Meme" is supposed to be, but your description of the "Gert Fröbe Case" falls short. Fröbe had always admitted to having been a member of the Nazi Party before 1945 (many actors were - it was definitely not helpful in finding work if you weren't), and yes, indeed, when that came up upon GF's release it was banned or boycotted in Israel. However, what happened then was that a formerly German Jewish family came forward and testified that Fröbe actually saved their lives by hiding them from the Gestapo, and the ban was terminated. This is my recollection of what I read about this, but I'm sure you'll find a lot about this on the Web.

    I'm not excusing being a member of the NSDAP (my own mother was one), as much as I think that some day a lot of Russians will have to answer for not standing up to Putin (and let's not start about MAGA!), but just mentioning a Nazi connection and the ban falls short of the whole picture.

    Thanks for the info! @j_w_pepper 🙂

    I thank you for your acknowledgment, @SIS_HQ.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    I'm planning to create an Iceberg meme for the bizarre Bond facts, anyone can help me in thinking some facts or trivia about Bond,but here's what I know so far:

    ...
    6. Gert Frobe's nazi connections and GF was banned in Israel.
    ...

    Feel free to add other facts.....🙂

    I don't know what an "Iceberg Meme" is supposed to be, but your description of the "Gert Fröbe Case" falls short. Fröbe had always admitted to having been a member of the Nazi Party before 1945 (many actors were - it was definitely not helpful in finding work if you weren't), and yes, indeed, when that came up upon GF's release it was banned or boycotted in Israel. However, what happened then was that a formerly German Jewish family came forward and testified that Fröbe actually saved their lives by hiding them from the Gestapo, and the ban was terminated. This is my recollection of what I read about this, but I'm sure you'll find a lot about this on the Web.

    I'm not excusing being a member of the NSDAP (my own mother was one), as much as I think that some day a lot of Russians will have to answer for not standing up to Putin (and let's not start about MAGA!), but just mentioning a Nazi connection and the ban falls short of the whole picture.

    Thanks for the info! @j_w_pepper 🙂

    I thank you for your acknowledgment, @SIS_HQ.

    Yes, I concur. I've read that too about Gert Frobe in Adrian Turner's book Goldfinger (1998). He certainly redeemed himself by his actions. Although he was a party member I recall he also said that he hadn't read Hitler's Mein Kampf. I think the film was also criticised in Israel for having Goldfinger gas the gangsters as this recalled the gassing of the Jews during the Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis. That little book by Adrian Turner on Goldfinger is highly recommended.
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    That little book by Adrian Turner on Goldfinger is highly recommended.

    Seconded. Turner's account of the screenplay's creation is fascinating and shows how important Paul Dehn's contributions were, alongside Maibaum's.

  • edited June 2023 Posts: 1,708
    Another weird Trump dream I had : we're sitting in a limo and all of a sudden he takes scissors and cut both legs off on my jeans a foot short for some reason , guess hes a prankster :P

    I dont think Auric is german so the gassing of the mobsters is reaching , its like modern day pc/must-not-offend thing. Eddie Murphy might as well not go on stage these days and Im sure they will neuter the Bundys if that cartoon is made today , certainly no fat women jokes will be allowed I bet
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    today Zorin would drown Tel Aviv , what with Israel making micro chips , heh
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  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    This might just be a coincidence but i found a strange similarity between Live and Let Die and The Jigsaw Theme.
    (0:46)

    (1:03)
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  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited July 2023 Posts: 3,789
    I've just realized that while I'm doing some searching on The Persuaders!, when Moore declined to do another season of the show only to accept the Bond role, in an interview, Moore later stated that he felt old for the role, even as far as saying that he even looked old in TMWTGG.

    It's the thing that I don't understand that much, maybe he didn't realized it at the time? And just later realized that "oh, even in that film, I did really looked old!" just silly to think.

    So, if he realized that early on, would he quit the Bond role and just stop at TMWTGG?

    And it's just funny to think that he'd accepted the role and (later) thought he's not fit in it (is it a part of his self deprecating manner?).

    I still don't know at why sometimes Moore criticized his own Bond portrayal? He accepted the role and did more films, but why he said some things?

    There's no wrong with self deprecation, but in Moore's case, he accepted the role, so being self deprecated, I think wasn't that much in place.

    (Those interviews are not that hard to find though, they're anywhere in the internet).

    I think at the time he left The Persuaders because of his willingness to do films, and he's surprised with the offer Cubby presented him, and he agreed to do it, but he's not prepared to be on it, so that's why in the later interviews, he's being self deprecated.

    I don't know, my mind just got mixed (and probably) screwed up this time 😅.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    A post from James Bond 007 Official page for celebrating the World Emoji Day:

    Deciphering:

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  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
    edited July 2023 Posts: 1,101


    I'm starting to get sick of seeing these two everywhere.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    The cancelled Bond films iceberg.
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    30 yrs since sitcom Perfect Strangers ended
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    edited August 2023 Posts: 9,041
    Here's one for the aircraft aficionados/aficionadas (@Agent_99, can you read me? I think you've been there before me but didn't find any postings).

    On Wednesday I visited in Berlin what used to be called the German Air Force Museum but is now simply the Gatow Airport division of the Museum of Military History (in Dresden). Gatow was the Berlin airport that the Brits used after the war (the U.S. had Tempelhof, and France had Tegel a few years later...while the Soviets had Schönefeld, which is now BER). There is quite a number of historical aircraft, along with ample information on the history of the airport and WW II and I in general. The collection includes aircraft from the Western powers (from which West Germany bought most of its planes in the fifties and sixties) as well as from Soviet production, since the East German air force was integrated into the West German air force after 1990.

    If there is one thing I didn't like so much, it is that many of those planes that sit outside on the apron instead of inside the hangar look rather worn. It seems they haven't been repainted for 30 years or so. Maybe it's intentional to make you see that these are simply killing machines that have had their day, instead of showing them as a sort of machine knights in shining armor.

    Here's a selection:
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    Backseat driver? (This L-39 Albatros was actually used for towing targets in the GDR air force. EDIT: But isn't she a beauty?)

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    Ilyushin-28. Normally a bomber, but used in East Germany as a reconnaissance aircraft.

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    An F-104 G "Starfighter" with a rocket-starting device and a dummy (American) nuclear bomb under the fuselage. The rocket was tested but never actually deployed. The F-104 became infamous after the Federal Government bought 916 of them, a third of which crashed, killing 116 pilots. Rumor still has it that the German defense minister at the time received handsome payments from Lockheed when the decision to buy the aircraft was made. (At least this one looks freshly painted.)

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    This is a diorama of how Gatow airport looked during the airlift. Quite a nice modelling job.

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    This is how a Panavia Tornado looks after it overtook you.

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    A MiG-29 which served in the (united) German air force for a few years. Most of the MiGs were sold (or given) to Poland in the mid-90s, and a number of them have now moved to the Ukrainian air force since those are the guys who learned how to fly them in the first place.

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    Voller's coming! Actually, the plane in Dial of Destiny was based on the Heinkel He-111, but the tail unit in DOD seems to come from a Junkers Ju-88, with a double vertical stabilizer. Anyway, this He-111 is really a Spanish Casa plane built under a license from Heinkel - with Rolls-Royce engines and after the war, although repainted as a specimen from the Nazi air force (as the museum freely admits).

    There 's a bunch of other interesting aircraft, and I highly recommend a visit for those who are interested, but it would lead too far here. And if it needs any more convincing: There is no entrance fee! Even the tours are free, provided you are there in time...quite unusual for a German museum. But at no point does the museum leave the impression of doing propaganda on behalf of the German or American government, but deals quite critically also with the downsides of warfare and what it does to the population. As I said, highly recommended.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited August 2023 Posts: 3,789
    If you can pick a classical composer to do Bond themes, like we have John Barry, David Arnold and etc., Now, if we're going to replace them with classical composers, per film, which one and whom?

    Antonio Vivaldi will be my version of Monty Norman, while Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and Antonio Vivaldi (Because of his symphonies, I've chose him to be my version of John Barry), also the same for Johannes Brahms.

    Dr. No - Antonio Vivaldi
    From Russia With Love - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
    Goldfinger - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
    Thunderball - Antonio Vivaldi
    You Only Live Twice - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - Antonio Vivaldi
    Diamonds Are Forever - Johannes Brahms
    Live And Let Die - Johann Strauss (I liked his Danube Waltz, so he will be my one off version of George Martin).
    The Man With The Golden Gun - George Bizet
    The Spy Who Loved Me - George Bizet
    Moonraker - Johann Strauss (his melodic sound would've matched Barry's simple yet melodic tune here).
    For Your Eyes Only - Arnold Schoenberg
    Octopussy - Johann Pachelbel
    A View To A Kill - Johann Pachelbel
    The Living Daylights - George Bizet
    Licence To Kill - Antonio Vivaldi
    Goldeneye - Pyotyr Illyich Tchaikovsky
    Tomorrow Never Dies - Igor Stravinsky
    The World Is Not Enough - Igor Stravinsky
    Die Another Day - Igor Stravinsky

    (Igor Stravinsky will be my version of David Arnold in the Brosnan Era)

    Casino Royale - Franz Liszt
    Quantum of Solace - Igor Stravinsky
    Skyfall - Franz Liszt
    SPECTRE - Bela Bartok
    No Time To Die - Johann Sebastian Bach 😅


  • edited August 2023 Posts: 1,708
    Carl & Jeanette in swedish drama Rederiet kinda remind me of Zorin & May Day , cept Carl isnt quite as mad as Zorin but certainly did evil things like poison his dad Reidar (and his mother tho that was more an accident but he didnt stop her drinking the arsenic laced coffee.....even more insane Carl also poisoned himself so that he could blame Lina for the deed). Carl is also power hungry and when Jeanette gets pregnant he doesnt care about the baby at all and demands an abortion , no questions are to be asked. Carl also welded Eric inside a storage room after he killed him by accident (Eric fell on door stop during a fight and broke his neck instantly). Then later Carl is tortured mentally by Emilie and held captive and develops an alter ego called Sam , "Sam" is willing to go where Carl doesnt have the guts to go :P
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    Bond did it first.
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    Cover of Spirou also imitated FYEO poster with evil female cyborg , yrs before T3 came out

    (Connerys pose was also recycled by Laz holding skis , there was also a Moore festival poster with same stance)
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Has anyone here watched Heart of Stone with Gal Gadot? The trailer of it looks like a Bond rip off.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
    edited August 2023 Posts: 1,101
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Has anyone here watched Heart of Stone with Gal Gadot? The trailer of it looks like a Bond rip off.

    I mean, Jane Bond is a thing, so...
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  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    I'm gonna ask this here cause I don't know in what music thread it could go.

    OHMSS main theme vs AVTAK action theme?

    For me? AVTAK theme.

    And which one do YOU prefer?

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