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Hmm... and instead they bring themselves to support tripe like Lulu's cat-lady screeching for TMWTGG.
Is that even controversial?
A tremendous kick in the bollocks of a title sequence and probably the best title song since the 60s.
As pompous and far-fetched it might sound, but If you don't you're actually not really a Bond fan.
As much as I agree with you I think on that point you're wrong. Mathis and whatever Italian living in the house certainly wouldn't drink bad wine ( there are two traits Italians in general excel, Creation and appreciation of beauty and good food/wine. After all wine doesn't have to be expensive to be of good quality. And I actually can see Flemings Bond drinking it with pleasure, musing about its honest and straight taste compared to some fancy brands.
I agree with you. The films have been tailored to his approach and SP (which overtly attempted to harken back to the old classics, at Craig's behest no less) is the first time I cringed at a Bond performance since the late 90s.
This should have been readily apparent when he was cast however. He just doesn't have the look for the smooth, sophisticated type, and so can't sell this element well (particularly in comparison to the naturals that preceded him). If they want to make this work in B25, they will have to ensure the script is top notch and that he is surrounded by some classy players to compensate (e.g. Green and Giannini).
I’ve lived in Rome for quite some time and I agree with you that Italians excel at it and few of them would drink bad wine.
But still, è un vino qualsiasi ;)
Geez that title song in TMWTGG is the worst. A decent performance from Moore and superb villain in Christopher Lee’s Scaramanga help this film avoid the very bottom of my list. I remember when I was really young it used to be one of my favorites. Now indefinitely stuck near the bottom; so much is meh.
With QoS and SP pushing GOLDEN GUN up even further, and really for the stupidest reasons. When compared to the stepbrother angle, the consistent and now expected vandalism of the Gun-barrel, and the non-score of Newman's SP, the comedic kung-fu scenes, and Sheriff Pepper's silliness just doesn't seem so bad to me anymore.
In addition, Barry's score (and I do tend to consider it middle of the road compared to his other efforts) elevates TMWTGG a few notches above SP for me. Christopher Lee is superb as well.
I'm probably one of, if not the biggest QoS critics on here. I really do not like that film at all. Probably my personal least favourite. But at least they're trying. TMWTGG on the other hand just feels so cheap and lazy and half arsed and just plain bad imo. That little stretch of film from the sumo "fight" to the boat chase is without a doubt the lowpoint of the series for me. Can't imagine how fans at the time must have felt with OHMSS only being half a decade behind them. Thank god for TSWLM.
I agree but I've always thought it was pretty popular. Definitely top five when it comes to Bond themes. Those opening bars and the segue from Bond shooting into the gunbarrel/titles instantly get rid of any bad blood that would have been there from them messing with the gunbarrel.
I'd agree but it just comes across as cheap and seedy to me. Like a bad B movie. Maybe this was the vibe they were going for because of the locations (strip club, kickboxing arena, etc) but for me it just ends up adding to the cheap shlocky B movie vibe that the whole film has.
I don't have it as the absolute worst for the reasons you listed, but it invariably "circles the bottom of the bowl" (to take a line from that list that was linked on the Bond rankings page) for me. Always been bottom 3 for me.
This.
MR and OP probably have as many cringeworthy moments but you can forgive them their faults because they at least smash it out the park elsewhere.
TMWTGG is so lazy and everyone apart from the actors is putting in so little effort it doesn't deserve to get the benefit of the doubt in the slightest.
Even with DAD there are so many misguided decisions but one thing you don't get is the feeling everybody involved really can't be arsed.
Sting's 'Englishman in New York' comes to mind when I think of those last two Hamilton entries in particular. I find the juxtaposition of his neat, tidy and refined self against all the surrounding shenanigans a real treat. A fish out of water.
That's literally every Moore movie save possibly for FYEO. I just don't see TMWTGG having what it takes to distinguish it from the others, though.
TSWLM and MR are far more glamorous, featuring better scores, better sets, better scale. Everything is dialled up to ten in TSWLM and eleven in MR. They really bring to life Roger's take on Bond far better than LALD and TMWTGG, as I see it. LALD itself beats TWMTGG because of the eccentric element, but for the most part everything about the movie save for the villain is better (and LALD doesn't do too poorly in that regard either).
OP has a relentless sense of energy and an actually fairly feasible plot. It's a great Cold War thriller and probably the best action movie of the Moore era. It also never gets derailed from its plot, unlike TWMTGG which spends a solid chunk of its movie on that.
The only one I can see being comparable is AVTAK, for feeling bogged down by a lack of energy and what not. But it's pretty widely panned already; I understand most people consider it worse than TMWTGG. I don't, but I've still got them ranked next to each other.
What I was saying is that I personally enjoy the eccentricities of LALD (blaxploitation) and TMWTGG (kung fu) and the overt piss taking in both due to Roger Moore. His polished conservative style, persona and look serve as a great contrast to all of it for me and serves to anchor the films. I realize that I'm probably in the minority and don't expect anyone to agree.
AVTAK doesn't compare imho, because I just felt he was just too old to be credible any more. If he had made that film 10 years prior it might have been a much better entry for me.
With AVTAK, I just find it stale from start to end. A weaker version of OP, which I think succeeds in hitting all the notes far more successfully. A lot of that as I've said, has to do with Moore, who I just didn't find credible any more. I am quickly beginning to feel that way about Craig as well.
I'm not a huge fan of TMWTGG or AVTAK, but I do feel that they are trying harder in AVTAK, particularly Walken and Jones (who play well off each other), and that makes the difference. The Ascot and Paris scenes aren't bad. And the stretch from when May Day sacrifices herself to the finale on the bridge is pretty awesome.
I agree that suspension of disbelief was necessary to really appreciate Moore as Bond @ForYourEyesOnly, but for me it was easier when he was younger. AVTAK was just a step too far and I'm glad he retired from the role after that film.
I'm right there with you.
I even like the firetruck scene as silly as it is.