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  • LudovicoLudovico
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    octofinger wrote: »
    ProfJoeButcher wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I do like SP, but it has its share of flaws.

    I said this before somewhere, but Spectre is an odd duck in that while I absolutely love it, I agree with about 90% of the criticism of the film.

    Hear hear. I actually like it, and think certain aspects will age fairly well. I'd offer that it's probably the best looking Bond film, on screen.

    My main complaint is probably about wasted potential. Given the talent and the budgets involved, the rights to Spectre finally secured, and etc., it could have been better. A lot better.

    Same here. I think the look and cast saves the movie, at least to a degree.
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
    Posts: 1,711
    I generally like the bits of Serra's score that are offbeat. It's his orchestral pieces I don't like. They're sappy and melodramatic.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    "Ladies First" by the great ERIC SERRA is the single greatest Bond track of all time. Yes, it's better than the James Bond Theme. There, I said it.


    I agree.
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    Posts: 2,722
    mattjoes wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    "Ladies First" by the great ERIC SERRA is the single greatest Bond track of all time. Yes, it's better than the James Bond Theme. There, I said it.


    I agree.

    He's quite mad you know...
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    "Ladies First" by the great ERIC SERRA is the single greatest Bond track of all time. Yes, it's better than the James Bond Theme. There, I said it.


    Hmmm you really are quite insane.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    @barryt007, check this out... :))
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Can you feel it?

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I'd say the best Bond track that isn't the Bond theme itself is perhaps Bond Lured to Pyramids.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited November 2018 Posts: 6,288
    mattjoes wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    "Ladies First" by the great ERIC SERRA is the single greatest Bond track of all time. Yes, it's better than the James Bond Theme. There, I said it.


    I agree.

    OMG, you just broke the Internet(s).

    But seriously, the best Bond track that is not the James Bond theme is Escape from Piz Gloria:

  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,154
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    @barryt007, check this out... :))
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Can you feel it?


    That was hilarious!
  • FrankXavierFrankXavier
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    Best Bond track that is not the James Bond theme is All Time High instrumental:



  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,753
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    echo wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    "Ladies First" by the great ERIC SERRA is the single greatest Bond track of all time. Yes, it's better than the James Bond Theme. There, I said it.


    I agree.

    OMG, you just broke the Internet(s).

    But seriously, the best Bond track that is not the James Bond theme is Escape from Piz Gloria:


    Escape from Piz Gloria is one of Barry's best! Can't get enough of that track.
  • jobojobo
    edited November 2018 Posts: 7,507
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Can you feel it?



    Oh nooo!! =))
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    Posts: 2,722
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    @barryt007, check this out... :))
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Can you feel it?


    That is a crime against humanity.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Major_Boothroyd wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    @barryt007, check this out... :))
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Can you feel it?

    That is a crime against humanity.
    Tell that to the concierge of the idea. :))
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    Posts: 2,722
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Major_Boothroyd wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    @barryt007, check this out... :))
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Can you feel it?

    That is a crime against humanity.
    Tell that to the concierge of the idea. :))

    What's next? Make It Last All Night over Bond strapped to the laser table in Goldfinger? Die Another Day over Tracey's death? The Experience of Love over the Casino Royale parkour sequence?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Major_Boothroyd wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Major_Boothroyd wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    @barryt007, check this out... :))
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Can you feel it?

    That is a crime against humanity.
    Tell that to the concierge of the idea. :))
    What's next? Make It Last All Night over Bond strapped to the laser table in Goldfinger? Die Another Day over Tracey's death? The Experience of Love over the Casino Royale parkour sequence?
    Beats me. Apparently, to a certain fella, everything is better than "The James Bond Theme". ;)
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    If you ask me Serra's sounds are the main culprit of the feel of beeing a dated movie. In other words, he set off the sounds that killed it.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    If you ask me Serra's sounds are the main culprit of the feel of beeing a dated movie. In other words, he set off the sounds that killed it.
    That's what I feel about GE, even though I love it.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    If they ever did another prequel book/movie on Bond's younger life, Kincade would be a great supporting character to bring back. He didn't get enough time in Skyfall.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    How's this? IMO the most perfect Bond movie is a toss up between FRWL & TLD.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,619
    chrisisall wrote: »
    How's this? IMO the most perfect Bond movie is a toss up between FRWL & TLD.

    In terms of Cold War thrillers, I can respect that. Two strong performances from two of my favorite Spielberg supporting character actors: Robert Shaw and John Rhys Davies.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    "Ladies First" by the great ERIC SERRA is the single greatest Bond track of all time. Yes, it's better than the James Bond Theme. There, I said it.


    There are opinions and there are opinions. Opinions are subjective. However I hate to say it, but this is the wrong opinion
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    There are opinions and opinions. This is the latter. ;)
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    Posts: 3,000
    Opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one. This particular one has explosive diarrhea.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    BMW_with_missiles wrote: »
    Opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one. This particular one has explosive diarrhea.
    Just like a shitting forecast.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Of course “Ladies First” is not better than the James Bond Theme, but I still like it.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    How's this? IMO the most perfect Bond movie is a toss up between FRWL & TLD.

    It's not even a debate for me. TLD is good but FRWL is far superior. Just with the casting and the villains it blows TLD out of the water.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2018 Posts: 23,883
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    "Ladies First" by the great ERIC SERRA is the single greatest Bond track of all time. Yes, it's better than the James Bond Theme. There, I said it.

    I wouldn't say the 'greatest'. I wouldn't even say one of the better ones, given how many great tracks this series has given us (most, regrettably, more than 25 years ago now).

    However, I do enjoy this track very much, think it fits the scene very well, and have never quite understood the dislike for it. The scratchy, playful, but also rather annoying nature of it suits Ms. Onatop's character to a tee. She uses sex as a weapon, and so it's apropos that the tune is somewhat reminiscent of a cheap pornographic film.

    I always look forward to the part where Serra weaves in the Bond theme. Nicely done.
  • Mack_BolanMack_Bolan
    Posts: 377
    YOLT is the best Bond film of the 1960s.

    The script can be illogical. And Connery looks a bit disengaged, especially compared to his wonderful performance in Thunderball. Still, there is Ken Adam’s volcano, which is the greatest villain’s lair in the franchise. Speaking of “greatest villains”, Donald Pleasence turns Blofeld into one of the great villains in cinema history. And I suppose the gyrocopter provided by Q is the best 007 vehicle, ahead of the jet pack and Aston Martin DB5. Lastly, Connery gets to wear that Navy uniform. “Commander Bond” indeed.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Very interesting.

    I don't agree at all that YOLT is the best in the series in that particular decade. But, I do understand where you're coming from in spite of all my issues with the film itself.
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