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I have to say I feel those scenes were attrociously acted. I'm not saying it just to have dig at Pierce. I just think they're dreadful.
I think he is really,really kidding himself here. The moderate success of his movies,as well as his age at the time of GE would suggest otherwise.
I share some of your scepticism. Although it seems odd that he should outright lie about it.
I realise that some may not like GE but I genuinely don't understand how some people can think a film like GE is weaker than the unfunny, sluggish, lazy, drab, boring film that is MWTGG...Christopher Lee or not.
I...just don't get it.
Ditto DAF, whose fat, bloated leading man is a shadow of his former self and hardly Bond-like at all.
GE did, at the very least, try to re-establish the series after a long gap and I think it succeeded. If DAF or MWTGG tried to do the same I feel they would have failed spectacularly.
Even if people didn't like Brosnan in the role surely the stronger cast of actors around him elevates it above the dated, uninspired rubbish that is those two films.
1. Tomorrow Never Dies
2. Goldeneye
3. The World Is Not Enough
4. Die Another Day
And as for Moneypenny, I couldn't stand Samantha Bond's version. Yes, I get it, it's the 1990's, they didn't have to shove modern Moneypenny, down my throught. I would rather watch Pamela Salem's Monneypenny over Bond's anyway. So it is a 'No' from me.
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@4EverBonded yes, my comments about the weak and lousy Bond women applies to Hatcher, Richards and Berry. I liked Sophie and always felt she was the best thing about TWINE.
A big problem with Jinx is the trap that writers fall into with African-American actresses: they feel they have to make her sassy which is bullshyt in my book. African-English actresses like Naomi Harris in SF is not hindered by writers who feel thay have to add "soul" to the character's dialogue thus playing into racial stereotypes (WTF?) and end up with really bad cliched dialogue. Along with Halle's crappy performance the dialogue reeks of road kill skunk.
"I'll file that with some of the other secret information around here"
What an inspired line reading. Grrrr!!!!
Bliss is the worst Moneypenny without question.
Thats what I'm talking about! lol
Back to Brosnan, he just never brought anything new or broke any new ground with the role. Roger many have been tongue-in-cheek at times but it was him and he made it his own. He took the role by the horns, and ran with it. He played to his strengths (like the other actors before and after him).
Brosnan was "just there". He hung around for four films, he was in shape to do a 5th film but luckily EON decided to move on.
And of course, we all know that Brosnan is the only Bond actor who was actually fired. From an actor who the public cheered and begged for, to the inglorious class of being the only Bond "let go" before he was ready to relinquish the part. I find that interesting.
Interesting observations.
She's nice, but I never really fancied her myself.
Yeah, I dated her and she was no great shakes. ;)
Post of the Day folks! =))
No stiring either? :!!
You guys crack me up. I see 26 new messages for this thread and think, Wow people are really arguing discussing Pierce, and this could be interesting, thoughtful ... or ugly.
I forgot how cute you all can be with your humor. :O) "Your momma?" I say, "Yeah, baby!" Oh, I think we all agree about Halle's contribution participation in DAD. Caroline Bliss - pretty or not pretty? I say tomato and you say tomahto. She was quite lovely, but the darn script had her be a pitiful, annoyingly cliched caricature.
OK, I will tally up the Monpenny votes shortly. Carry on, all! B-)
I quite agree with you about these scenes, @Birdleson. Pierce had some fine moments, which is easy for many to forget in hindsight (rather similar to how quickly or easily one can forget Roger's well played serious moments). There are many problems with DAD, but I don't fault Pierce's performance in that one.
I think he sells that scene quite well on the whole. He's less successful in the following scene on the ship.
I appreciated the videos of Moore a few pages back, too; but let me just say this:
That just reminded me: I would appreciate if no one posted any of the many stills that abound showing the infamous, "pain face." Not on this thread, please.
Leave that for other threads, of which there are plenty. Why? Because I wouldn't post photos of Connery with his silly face at the guards or any other Bond caught in a still that makes them look silly or bad.
That has never happened on this thread before (I don't think the shots of Connery as Zoroz or whatever the character was in that nonBond film ever graced these threads, either), and I want it to stay that way. I don't want that to be what this thread turns into. Got it? Thanks, everybody.
We did turn Beam into a walrus a while back, but that was not catching a Bond actor in a still that makes him or her look bad.
Discussion works well. Other clips and photos are fine. That goes for all the Bonds.
Argue with me on that point as you will, but I am not changing that. This thread has not deteriorated since SirHenry started it and it would be a genuine shame if it turned into just a thread like so many others.
Overall, DAD is a messy piece of unenjoyable action with tons of bad dialog and an atrocious Bond girl in Jinx - but I do feel that Pierce gave a good performance throughout it, which is easy to get overlooked because so much of that film was just ... wrong.
I'm trying to think of a scene where I think he did a good job. I struggle, but there were some enjoyable moments during his tenure - literally moments. I think the sequence in Bilbao at the start of TWINE is good. It's not demanding acting exactly, but he convinces there. I also thought the PTS in TND was pretty effective, until the infamous PF kicks in.
Well we all can't be very chipper if we spent 14 months being tortured in North Korea. Though Pierce was lucky he wasn't captured today, he'd be forced to get a Kim Jong Un haircut. :))
He doesn't really convey any sense that he's been a prisoner for 14 months. As usual with Brozzer, something else other than himself - i.e. the costume and haircut - have to do the heavy-lifting in terms of conveying what's going on. That hair really was dreadful. Reminds me of how he looked at his first press conference as Bond. Might actually have been better if they'd given him a proper short crop.