DC Comics Cinematic Universe (2013 - present)

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I assume WB isn't going to bring Miller back for any films after The Flash. Variety did say sometime ago that they weren't going to replace him in The Flash, though. That's probably very expensive and time consuming. But I wonder if they would be willing to change their minds at some point if Miller's situation becomes worse. At the very least, the filmmakers and actors doing promotion will have to field some uncomfortable questions.

    The last time that a movie replaced a big movie star was Kevin Spacey, for All the Money in the World. And even that was less than two months before release. Ezra Miller is a lead, and frankly, I can’t care more or less about it. WB went wrong with trying to compete with Marvel, with the wrong people (Zack Snyder and a lot of his people), to start with. Zack is just too polarizing for what WB was asking for right way. So, there are A LOT of people that are to blame for the DCEU’s more misses than hits. It’s honestly too big a mess to point fingers at anyone.

    I haven't seen All the Money in the World (yet), but I understand J. Paul Getty isn't in it the whole time, whereas The Flash is about the Flash. So replacing him would be a bigger and more expensive task.

    It’s a shame this didn’t happen before shooting as the film seems to be a multiverse thing, which would give the perfect opportunity to replace Miller with a new lead by the end of the film, you’d imagine. Flash from another universe becomes our Flash, bingo.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Shazam 2 Teaser Trailer

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    Shrugs I didn’t see the first Shazam one day I will
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Shrugs I didn’t see the first Shazam one day I will

    Its a bit juvenile I only watched it once.

    The only time I thought Captain Marvel looked good was in The Flashpoint Paradox.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Shrugs I didn’t see the first Shazam one day I will

    Its a bit juvenile I only watched it once.

    The only time I thought Captain Marvel looked good was in The Flashpoint Paradox.

    That film has nothing but great moments overall.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Shrugs I didn’t see the first Shazam one day I will

    Its a bit juvenile I only watched it once.

    The only time I thought Captain Marvel looked good was in The Flashpoint Paradox.

    That film has nothing but great moments overall.

    The final act of the Animated Movie is better than most live action films to be honest.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Shrugs I didn’t see the first Shazam one day I will

    Its a bit juvenile I only watched it once.

    The only time I thought Captain Marvel looked good was in The Flashpoint Paradox.

    That film has nothing but great moments overall.

    The final act of the Animated Movie is better than most live action films to be honest.

    Well I cry every time, I won’t lie.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Well, I wasn't a part of that campaign but I sure am pleased with the outcome.
  • edited July 2022 Posts: 2,264
    That article reeks of BS to me, especially since it’s perfectly timed with the release of the Snyder Cut on Digital Release. Not to mention Ray Fisher called out both the author and editor on Twitter for giving him only an hour to reply with his comments then switching the deadline on him before he could get a response in.

    EDIT; Thought I’d drop this

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/07/19/warner-bros-claims-about-a-bot-infested-snyder-cut-movement-dont-really-add-up/?sh=5c88b9f817f5
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    There’s a lot of rumblings at Comic Con about a possible announcement that Henry Cavill will be returning as Superman.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Way overdue.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Better than the first trailer.
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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    It's rumored that Aquaman 2 will now be shifting to December 2023 in another major delay.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    It’s kinda demoralizing how DC has been a huge mess more so lately. I’m more of a DC guy than Marvel, and seeing its potential squandered over the last 30 years (with a few notable exceptions) has been a bummer.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited August 2022 Posts: 24,173
    It’s kinda demoralizing how DC has been a huge mess more so lately. I’m more of a DC guy than Marvel, and seeing its potential squandered over the last 30 years (with a few notable exceptions) has been a bummer.

    I know this is not the popular opinion, but I was very pleased with the direction Snyder was taking. He had some big plans, and since I rather like his style, I was definitely in his target demographic. But that dream ballon was pricked a few years ago.

    And I'm a huge fan of Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy--honestly.

    I'm much more of a DC than a Marvel guy myself, and I, too regret that things aren't going quite as smoothly as I'd want them to go.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Oh it’s not directed at specifically Snyder or Nolan (though I wasn’t a fan of Snyder), but even more so because of what’s going on with BATGIRL being shelved and Ezra Miller’s THE FLASH.

    Even with the Snyder factor, I still put the blame on WB for rushing to a JUSTICE LEAGUE film. The fact that Henry Cavill didn’t get a standalone sequel after a decade is honestly INSANE.

    And now we have all these supposed different continuities with DCEU continuing but only with certain characters, rebooting Batman but keeping Affleck as a supporting cameo, Keaton now on two projects that are now supposedly tainted (FLASH and BATGIRL).

    The BATGIRL thing is a curious thing because I already like the directors behind it as I really dug BAD BOYS FOR LIFE and MS MARVEL. I hope this shelving doesn’t hurt their careers.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I find it odd that they managed to bungle the order of things so early on when there was a Marvel template to emulate and copy. Why we didn't get a few standalone films first (and a Man of Steel sequel would've been appreciated; I rewatched it recently and it still holds up) is beyond me.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Cooperate thinking.

    When Bryan Singer was pitching DAYS OF FUTURE PAST, he sold it as “The Avengers of the X-Men films” which made Fox executives excited.
  • edited August 2022 Posts: 6,844
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I find it odd that they managed to bungle the order of things so early on when there was a Marvel template to emulate and copy. Why we didn't get a few standalone films first (and a Man of Steel sequel would've been appreciated; I rewatched it recently and it still holds up) is beyond me.

    It's all about competing with what the other studio is doing currently. It's kind of like how we had two asteroid disaster films the same year (Armageddon, Deep Impact), two volcanoes films the same year (Dante's Peak, Volcano), and so forth. Batman vs. Superman was put together in response to Marvel's Civil War (Captain America vs. Iron Man). Then Justice League was put together in response to the coming Infinity War/Endgame. The problem for DC was that Marvel had the jump on them by five years and several films. Marvel had much more traction and was much better organized. For as rushed as the storytelling was, I do think Snyder did a very good job with Man of Steel, Batman vs. Superman, and his Justice League and with overseeing Wonder Woman. As you say, the DCEU really could have gone places. The potential was there.
  • Creasy47 wrote: »
    I find it odd that they managed to bungle the order of things so early on when there was a Marvel template to emulate and copy. Why we didn't get a few standalone films first (and a Man of Steel sequel would've been appreciated; I rewatched it recently and it still holds up) is beyond me.

    It's all about competing with what the other studio is doing currently. It's kind of like how we had two asteroid disaster films the same year (Armageddon, Deep Impact), two volcanoes films the same year (Dante's Peak, Volcano), and so forth. Batman vs. Superman was put together in response to Marvel's Civil War (Captain America vs. Iron Man). Then Justice League was put together in response to the coming Infinity War/Endgame. The problem for DC was that Marvel had the jump on them by five years and several films. Marvel had much more traction and was much better organized. For as rushed as the storytelling was, I do think Snyder did a very good job with Man of Steel, Batman vs. Superman, and his Justice League and with overseeing Wonder Woman. As you say, the DCEU really could have gone places. The potential was there.

    I think it goes way beyond catching up with Marvel. The biggest issue that the DC films have is the constant studio interference. It started with Snyder’s films and just kept getting continually worse and worse as the DCEU moved forward. I think the overwhelming reaction to ZSJL as well as some of the reassessments of MOS and BvS proved that perhaps it would’ve been best to stick with what Snyder mapped out. It wasn’t perfect, but it was 10x better than whatever their doing now. But with Alan Horn back at WB, and the new management overall, I wouldn’t be surprised if they do start paying attention to what the fans want.
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    Batgirl was almost finished, but is now cancelled :

    https://www.cbr.com/warner-bros-official-batgirl-canceled-statement/
  • Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav said, "The Flash is a remarkable cinematic achievement. I'd say there's only a 20% chance we'll put it out with the recycling next week."
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Translation: “This movie is way too damn expensive to write off so we have to pretend we have confidence in this, also, please don’t ask us about Ezra.”
  • The Flash movie ends with Ezra Miller being replaced due to some “Multiverse” shenanigans
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Translation: “This movie is way too damn expensive to write off so we have to pretend we have confidence in this, also, please don’t ask us about Ezra.”

    -What about Ezra?
    -We are very proud of Ezra, they are very talented, as their work in The Flash will show. We look forward to working with them again.
    -But what about all the allegations?
    -We find Ezra's behavior unacceptable and cannot condone it, therefore they won't appear in any more DC productions.
    -But you just said you were proud of them.
    -(Pulls shirt collar) We are very proud of Ezra, and we find their behavior unacceptable. We look forward to working with them again, but we absolutely refuse to work with them.
    -So which is it, do you want to work with them again or do you refuse to work with them?
    -Yes, that's correct.
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