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Oh not all Bond villains need to or can hold a gun. Kronsteen is a great villain, but he wouldn't be able to do anything with any kind of weapon.
Anyway, what can be the main villain's specialty? Weapon smuggler? Explosive expert? Or simply a tactician?
It would be beneath the likes of Kronsteen to have anything to do with guns and the like - those are for the riff-raff like 'Red' Grant!
Quite. The Wizard of Ice is a purely cerebral villain - as I think the main villain should be. He should have henchman do his dirty work so he can keep his hands clean. DN would be the textbook example here - intellectually superior to Bond, aloof and would never dream of doing anything so vulgar as to attack Bond himself until there is no other option.
Very much agreed on that, Ice. I guess that that must be a topic close to your heart, Ice!
I like Greene. He was crazed and often psychotically unbent, like with Camille in Haiti and in his fight with Bond in the hotel, but balanced that with the mind of a businessman, very sociopathic and greedy. And he doesn't stick an axe in his own foot purposefully, Bond counters his axe blow and sends it swinging into his foot while they're scrapping.
For the record, I like Greene too (and QoS as a whole). It seems that I got that part wrong, although they did say somewhere that Greene was an amateur when it came to fighting, and no other Bond villain ever had his own axe stuck in his own foot.
That was one thing that was missing from QOS: a henchman that was a proper fighter. Greene was very good at what he knew, but fighting was not part of it.
Come on, Elvis was...oh wait a minute.
Yes, I'm sure that you'll agree with me that the henchmen in the Craig era have been somewhat offbeat, but this is simply due to the reboot, I imagine. In fact, if you think about it, named and prominent henchmen didn't really feature very prominently in the original Fleming Bond novels - MR, DAF, FRWL, GF and TSWLM quite aside.
I think the lack of a strong henchman during the Craig has many causes: there are a lot of minor villains who may not be Grant but are nevertheless capable fighters (Obanno, Patrice, Mitchell, Slate, etc.), the climactic scenes feature him against a relatively important number of henchmen, the physicality of Craig Bond himself makes it more difficult to find a believable physical menace and also and maybe more importantly the difficulty to be creative and original with the physical henchman. Too many have been clones of Grant in the past.
And for the record, I don't mind no big bad henchman if the villain is a capable fighter. But if he is not, it would be nice that he has a capable bodyguard, like a Luca Brazi.
Pencil ?
Points for prescience.
I too would have liked the plot point from TSWLM script with the young Turks, perhaps Spectre taking out Quantum, but oh well. I recall Burgess had a few good, if out there, ideas.
They've done that recently with both Graves and Greene, two very public men who used their squeaky (or at least charmed) images to distract from their secret and evil plots.
Greene was low profile in comparison to those guys, but they were also very cartoonish villains. Like most of QoS, it viewed life as it really would be. Greene was a public face of an eco company, and would be like a politician you see doing the rounds at conventions and news talk radio shows spreading their message of a greener earth. He had to keep up the warm, public facade in order to get the resources that made him a Quantum member, and his hold allowed him connections to pull off big schemes like his duping of Medrano for Bolivia's water. He didn't over publicize himself of course, because that would be reckless and risk exposing his true intentions. Again, like real life.
I believe he modeled Greene on Sarkozy. I wouldn't mind seeing a politician as the main villain, but then again, they'd have to come up with some fictional country, which tends to throw me out of the film.
Or just have a radical member of a political party that doesn't speak for the nation with his acts.
Would be interesting to see Bond have to decide whether to assassinate a major political figure. Shades of Pushkin in TLD.
It's a Bond specialty. A great way to have a villain of the state, without making the state the enemy. Koskov is one of the best examples of that, and certainly Orlov too. Just as Gogol and Pushkin are great examples of showing us men from the other side who are good and upstanding and capable of detente with Bond and his crew.
Anthony Burgess had imagined a gross Orson Welles in a wheelchair as the villain. That could have worked.