Last Bond Movie You Watched

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  • Posts: 11,189
    I didn’t like MWTGG or AVTAK that much when I last rewatched them. One is mean-spirited, the other is just limp.
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    Lightweight doesn't necessarily mean bad, which members here often mistake for.

    Ok in TND’s case “lightweight” tends to equal “cheesy”. Far too cheesy.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Lightweight doesn't necessarily mean bad, which members here often mistake for.

    Ok in TND’s case “lightweight” tends to equal “cheesy”. Far too cheesy.
    You and I must have a different definition for the word “cheesy”.
  • Posts: 12,474
    TND is flawed, but it being the most “lightweight” of the Brosnan era is often helpful. Better that than the overblown TWINE and DAD.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Bond 25 must be shorter than SP. 2 and a half hours is too much.
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    Ok in TND’s case “lightweight” tends to equal “cheesy”. Far too cheesy.
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Lightweight doesn't necessarily mean bad, which members here often mistake for.

    Ok in TND’s case “lightweight” tends to equal “cheesy”. Far too cheesy.
    You and I must have a different definition for the word “cheesy”.

    But it is though.

    “I always wondered how I’d feel if I ever saw you again”
    (Slap)
    “Now I know. Was it something I said?”
    “How about the words I’ll be right back”

    “I’ve made my bed. You don’t sleep in it anymore”

    “This job of yours. It’s MURDER on relationships”

    TND feels like it’s intentionally dubbed down for teenagers. And I say that as someone who first saw it and liked it as a teenager.

    Watching it now, it just doesn’t hold up very well as an adult.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    And “You stripped it from me, whatever is left of me, whatever I am, I’m yours.” Isn’t cheesy?

    “Mommy was very bad.”

    The entirety of Christopher Waltz’s lines when he’s mocking Bond...

    I am sure these are very adult lines.
  • Posts: 11,189
    And “You stripped it from me, whatever is left of me, whatever I am, I’m yours.” Isn’t cheesy?

    “Mommy was very bad.”

    The entirety of Christopher Waltz’s lines when he’s mocking Bond...

    I am sure these are very adult lines.

    But there's a bit more class to those scripts alongside the cheese.

    In the case of TND, its ALL cheesy.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I am sure there is.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    I'd still love to see Hopkins play the villain. It would be truly exciting-- a great actor with built-in star power of the highest caliber. Though I'm not sorry he didn't appear in TND. In the role of Carver, Jonathan Pryce was, well, pryceless. (Ugh.)

    I think Brosnan and Yeoh had great chemistry together, just not romantic chemistry. I'd rank the Brosnan leading ladies like this: 1) Natalya and Elektra, 2) Wai Lin, 3) Jinx.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Just finished watching Quantum of Solace. I'll say it plain and clear, it's a heavily underrated gem. I appreciate it more over the years and it keeps getting quite the love from me. The sloppy editing bits, I would say, take place during the chase underneath the Palio in the tunnels, and that's about it.

    I'd love to see a Bond film in this vein, again. It does mix traditionalism and modernism into one, albeit underusing the Bond Girls, but all in all, a very enjoyable experience. Such a shame the succeeding films took the wrong direction...
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    Just finished watching Quantum of Solace. I'll say it plain and clear, it's a heavily underrated gem. I appreciate it more over the years and it keeps getting quite the love from me. The sloppy editing bits, I would say, take place during the chase underneath the Palio in the tunnels, and that's about it.

    I'd love to see a Bond film in this vein, again. It does mix traditionalism and modernism into one, albeit underusing the Bond Girls, but all in all, a very enjoyable experience. Such a shame the succeeding films took the wrong direction...

    Totally agree. Part of me actually like the fast paced editing of certain sequences (and that's something I rarely feel is a good thing). At least it has pace, as the two following films are a bore in comparison. It doesn't overstay it's welcome either, with the shorter running time.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Just finished watching Quantum of Solace. I'll say it plain and clear, it's a heavily underrated gem. I appreciate it more over the years and it keeps getting quite the love from me. The sloppy editing bits, I would say, take place during the chase underneath the Palio in the tunnels, and that's about it.

    I'd love to see a Bond film in this vein, again. It does mix traditionalism and modernism into one, albeit underusing the Bond Girls, but all in all, a very enjoyable experience. Such a shame the succeeding films took the wrong direction...
    Totally agree. Part of me actually like the fast paced editing of certain sequences (and that's something I rarely feel is a good thing). At least it has pace, as the two following films are a bore in comparison. It doesn't overstay it's welcome either, with the shorter running time.
    +1. Well said.
  • Posts: 12,474
    It’s quickly been growing on me as well. It’s so brisk and action-packed. It delivers the goods with no added substance. To me, Craig’s first 3 is a terrific run of Bond films overall.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I don't like it as much as some seem to do on this forum, but don't dislike it either. It moves fast enough and is a decent showcase for Craig's rugged and gritty interpretation of the character.

    I'll always remember it as a film which was quite disappointing on first viewing in comparison to its predecessor, particularly with my expectations so high in 2008. In that regard it had a similar effect on me as TND in 1997. Both action oriented with little romantic flair.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I don't like it as much as some seem to do on this forum, but don't dislike it either. It moves fast enough and is a decent showcase for Craig's rugged and gritty interpretation of the character.

    I'll always remember it as a film which was quite disappointing on first viewing in comparison to its predecessor, particularly with my expectations so high in 2008. In that regard it had a similar effect on me as TND in 1997.

    TND is a good comparison film. For both Craig and Brosnan, they are both:

    -their second films
    -possibly their most action-oriented films
    -their films with the least emotional baggage

    Neither are quite among the best, but both are very good as actiony Bond films that get right to the point. Only serious issue I take with either is TND’s dull climax.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    -possibly their most action-oriented films
    -their films with the least emotional baggage
    That's exactly why they are absolutely great.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    I rank QoS fairly low (well, I don't bother ranking the films, but if I did, it would be low). Having said that, I'm overdue for another watch. I have this feeling it may go up in appreciation considerably.
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    Just finished watching Quantum of Solace. I'll say it plain and clear, it's a heavily underrated gem. I appreciate it more over the years and it keeps getting quite the love from me. The sloppy editing bits, I would say, take place during the chase underneath the Palio in the tunnels, and that's about it.

    I'd love to see a Bond film in this vein, again. It does mix traditionalism and modernism into one, albeit underusing the Bond Girls, but all in all, a very enjoyable experience. Such a shame the succeeding films took the wrong direction...

    The chase in the tunnels is the only part that the editing falters, I agree. It still is too fast and hard to make out. The pts car chase just gets better and better on each viewing.
    It probablly is the only Bond movie in the series that I get something extra or new on subsequent viewing.
    I like it so much that last time I watched I even enjoyed the freefall sequence!
    QOS also contains one of my all time favourite scenes, the conversation with Mathis on the plane. Craig conveys so much in this short scene. I love it and look forward to that moment each time I watch the film!
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Just finished watching Quantum of Solace. I'll say it plain and clear, it's a heavily underrated gem. I appreciate it more over the years and it keeps getting quite the love from me. The sloppy editing bits, I would say, take place during the chase underneath the Palio in the tunnels, and that's about it.

    I'd love to see a Bond film in this vein, again. It does mix traditionalism and modernism into one, albeit underusing the Bond Girls, but all in all, a very enjoyable experience. Such a shame the succeeding films took the wrong direction...

    Ah, If Bond 25 is half the film QOS is, I’ll be pleased. Its got everything. It has the thrilling action, the awesome plot, great villains, great showcasing of Bond character, it’s rough and bloody, and it has great dialogue.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    Spectre. Even better the second time around. I guess I'll be one of those that defends the movie, as with QOS(although Spectre is definitely better than QOS). It can't, even during its best moments, compare to Casino Royale and Skyfall, but then, with the exception of Connery's first four and OHMSS, to me CR and SF are better than every other Bond film, so maybe that's unfair. Taken on its own, SP is a fine little flick, akin to Goldeneye or The Living Daylights or something (although I'd totally understand many ranking GE and TLD higher; especially TLD, what a good palate cleanser Bond movie), not the gold stand but surely not down in the dregs with Brosnan and Moore's worst. I sincerely hope Bond 25 will be better, a classy sendoff for my second favorite Bond actor. I'm going to miss Craig like crazy, so I guess I'm already looking back at his tenure and I'm overall very pleased with it all.
  • edited March 2018 Posts: 684
    Just finished watching Quantum of Solace. I'll say it plain and clear, it's a heavily underrated gem. I appreciate it more over the years and it keeps getting quite the love from me. The sloppy editing bits, I would say, take place during the chase underneath the Palio in the tunnels, and that's about it.

    I'd love to see a Bond film in this vein, again. It does mix traditionalism and modernism into one, albeit underusing the Bond Girls, but all in all, a very enjoyable experience. Such a shame the succeeding films took the wrong direction...
    By no means a flawless Bond film, but its the pinnacle of Craig's tenure for me. And the only other post-60s film I'd have ahead of it is TSWLM. I'm not sure QOS will ever fully undergo the reassessment that OHMSS has (there weren't half so many geniuses involved in its making) but the softening stance on it over the last decade is well-deserved.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    QOS, especially when watched after CR, is a masterpiece. There I said it.
  • Posts: 12,474
    Still, for me, Craig’s films go:

    CR > SF > QOS > > > SP

    But I love the first 3. Hoping the fifth is a return to form.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Remington wrote: »
    QOS, especially when watched after CR, is a masterpiece. There I said it.
    Yep!

    And all you have to do is to pay attention closely. It does bear the emotional part without having to be a pathetic soap opera that the films are in general these days.

    I mean, the bit when Camille is in shock and looking at the flames around her as well as hearing the screams of the dead which frightened her to the core? I loved it. It’s a very beautiful Bond film. I never had to fast forward through the parts I don’t like because there weren’t any. Can’t say the same for what followed in the years that came after.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited March 2018 Posts: 13,978
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    But it is though.

    “I always wondered how I’d feel if I ever saw you again”
    (Slap)
    “Now I know. Was it something I said?”
    “How about the words I’ll be right back”

    “I’ve made my bed. You don’t sleep in it anymore”

    “This job of yours. It’s MURDER on relationships”

    TND feels like it’s intentionally dubbed down for teenagers. And I say that as someone who first saw it and liked it as a teenager.

    Watching it now, it just doesn’t hold up very well as an adult.

    This was the Brosnan era we are talking about, cheese was one of the big ingredients of the 1995-2002 films. But there is nothing in TND that is as bad as the M scenes in GE, or "Yo Mama" in DAD.
  • Posts: 11,189
    The M scenes were at least done with a bit of class.
  • Posts: 12,474
    There is a fair amount of corny dialogue in each Brosnan Bond film; it steadily increased with each one I think. It doesn’t get particularly bad until some of it in TWINE I think.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    SF is full of cringeworthy dialogues. SP's interactive problem is only Oberhauser, whose attitude is every bit as cheesy and embarrassing as Silva's was.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    edited March 2018 Posts: 814
    I'm glad to see Quantum of Solace getting a reappraisal. I've always been an ardent defender of it, though I can't get on the "it's a masterpiece" train. I don't want to throw the word masterpiece around too much, and I feel that only Casino Royale, Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball and maybe On Her Majesty's Secret Service qualify as masterpieces. But that's me. Casino Royale, in particular, is, to me, a perfect movie. When we were asked in one of the threads, what are the 5 worst things about CR, I came up with a few only to answer the question, but really, there is nothing I don't love about it. I agree that QOS is better when you watch it immediately after CR. But to be honest, I like Spectre more than QOS. Not a whole lot more and they both have a couple of things here and there that just don't work for me. Skyfall is better than both of them and CR is better than QOS, SF and SP combined. Honestly it's getting to the point that CR might overtake TB as my favorite Bond movie; I'll have to rename my self on here if that happens.

    Anyway, I'm rambling. As I said elsewhere, I've been taking stock lately of Daniel Craig's tenure as Bond. To me, there hasn't been a streak of back to back good, quality Bond movies since Sean's legendary first four. That's incredible.
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