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The Horror Thread II: The Return

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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @Fire_and_Ice_Returns, shame, I've loved that version since it dropped 15 years ago (which pains me to type out, knowing that was the last installment we had. What a travesty).

    To be fair the kills have been good so far and Jason is imposing, I just find the so called teenagers irratation levels dialed up to 11, as a viewer you don't mourn any of there deaths lol.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Most of the characters in the Friday series are obnoxious, to be fair. The 2009 film, for me, is one of the best ones for a variety of reasons. Nothing beats Jason Lives, though.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    The meat portions in the F13 series barely qualify as characters since their main reason for existing is so that said existence can be brutally terminated by Jason, to our amusement I might add. Also, boobs. Let's be frank, the 2009 film doesn't miss a single opportunity to demonstrate the alluring nature of the female chest. It should come as no surprise that the "B³" cocktail of Blood, Babes and Boobs is what has kept the series going for 12 instalments. The Platinum Dunes film certainly wants to stuff as much B³ in there as inhumanly possible. When the rich boy cheats on his girlfriend while telling his latest pick-up during sex that, "wow, those tits are stupendous", you know what kind of movie you're in. The water-skiing girl takes her top off too, for some mysterious reason, only to be impaled by Jason. The entire film thrives on this formula. Story? None. Well, almost none. But not enough for one film, hence the two sets of teens that meet an early demise by the phallic tools our boy Jason so willingly wields.

    I'm not a hypocrite; story has never been my reason for enjoying the series. I'm in it for a few pounds of B³ as well. But the "remake" or "reboot" or whatever the 2009 film is, lacks focus. Early on, it's a forgone conclusion that the film isn't even going to allow any blood to flow to our brains; Bay and Nispel desperately want to direct it somewhere else. So it's just about the male gaze then? Sure. This film is so categorically male-oriented, it barely moves above that baseline of gore and tits that are the x and y of the slasher genre.

    All that said, I enjoy these things just like I enjoy a slice of pizza. Neither are masterpieces in their respective businesses, but they fulfil their greasy promise with ease. In fact, I wish Platinum Dunes hadn't stopped making F13, ANOES and TCM films because as genre product, their slasher output showed promise. Nowadays, it's all about the "elevated" slasher, and that's a good thing--I'm a fan! But a simple no-brainer of a B³ slasher is part of my balanced horror film diet as well.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The Platinum Dunes film certainly wants to stuff as much B³ in there as inhumanly possible. When the rich boy cheats on his girlfriend while telling his latest pick-up during sex that, "wow, those tits are stupendous", you know what kind of movie you're in.

    A B³ masterpiece. And he was absolutely correct about the tits.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    The Friday characters beyond Jason and his mother are extremely forgettable for me, but that’s okay because I know what I’m going into when I watch the movies, haha. Slashers aren’t (usually?) meant to be high art, but they’re a lot of fun when done nicely!
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    The Friday characters beyond Jason and his mother are extremely forgettable for me, but that’s okay because I know what I’m going into when I watch the movies, haha. Slashers aren’t (usually?) meant to be high art, but they’re a lot of fun when done nicely!

    Exactly. There is a "cosy" element to a good slasher that I appreciate very much. Call me immoral, a little insane perhaps, but a well-crafted slasher flick--my demands are few and my bar pretty low--is an effective stress reliever.
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The Platinum Dunes film certainly wants to stuff as much B³ in there as inhumanly possible. When the rich boy cheats on his girlfriend while telling his latest pick-up during sex that, "wow, those tits are stupendous", you know what kind of movie you're in.

    A B³ masterpiece. And he was absolutely correct about the tits.

    He was. No doubt about it.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Friday the 13th remake final act was decent enough, I must admit going into the rewatch I was expecting to see Katie Cassidy, I soon realized I was getting my horror films mixed up, Katie is in A Nightmare on Elm Street remake.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Thanks to Arrow Films and their beautiful and often extras-heavy editions, I've been doing a deep-dive into the world of Ju-On lately. Especially The Curse (1&2) and The Grudge (1&2) are films that creep me out in a delightful manner. I also like the 2004 remake and about half of its 2006 sequel. All of these, including the remake and its sequel, were directed by Takashi Shimizu. I've also seen the other films in the series, both the Japanese and American ones, but those are just not as effective. The American Grudge 3 and 2020 Grudge are actually for most the part terrible. I just don't think The Grudge can work outside the Japanese setting and its infamous haunted house, distorted timeline and original Kayako and Toshio.

    I've also read the manga and the first novelization, the only book that has ever managed to give me goosebumps.

    Yes, I'm a J-Horror fan, particularly of the Ring and Grudge series. Ju-On -- did you know that's not even a word in Japanese? -- is my favourite. Its low-budget qualities, along with its strong blend of modern and traditional Japanese culture and storytelling, provides those horror fan with everything he needs.
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