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Nah, he flirts with the airline woman, perhaps more; I can’t recall.
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I don't consider myself a feminist or any other groups to identify nor do I think it benefit anyone in the long run. If I have a daughter and son and I classify myself a feminist won't I be ignoring my son. How exactly is that equality when you are focusing on one gender and ignoring the other. If I want my daughter or son to have same treatment or rights I will teach them to take responsibility for their actions not hide behind feminist propaganda and use reservation as means to get the somewhere.
About Bond being rapist or misogynist. Bond is assertive sometimes extreme but he was never a rapist. If he tries to force her after she refused to be with him then I would consider it a rape. I laugh whenever feminist try to claim bond a rapist but forget they enjoyed when a character like Christian Grey spanked a college teen in a horrific piece of literature (if you call that a literature) called Fifty shades Trilogy. It's strange majority of feminist never raised a finger when a pretty boy with lots of money tries to rape a virgin girl.
Men and women who tends to like those novels and films are what I call borderline. They have a daddy Issues or absent or weak father during their adolescence which tends to make them go after that kind of people. Only a fool would conjure up with something like that because it opens an unbelievable possibilities of manipulation. Majority of feminist don't like bond because he isn't going to bow down to their whims and wishes. It seems to me a lot guys are agreeing with feminist just to be with them.
Feminists blabber about male dominance in our society and equality but forget that
-Most of the victims of alimony and child support cases which are biased towards are men.
-Most prisoner are men
-Most homeless are men
-Most victims of violent crimes are men
-Most people who commit suicide are men
-Most people who dies in wars are men.
85% men have been denied 50/50 custody of children when they divorce and have young children. Family courts are hugely biased towards Men. What feminist are doing is taking a tiny proportion of successful men and using it to represent the entire society to prove the male dominance. There are huge proportion of people in general affected which aren't at the higher position of authority. Most of all It's not the Dominance but competence that maintain the basic structure of our society.
Is feminist protesting against profession where they are paid more than men take primary school teachers for example which are only 15% btw. I have been working in a female dominating profession(Being a psychology student and hopefully to gain more in that profession) and never felt marginalized within it. Feminist never go into details of these things. The devil lies in the detail you Know.
Women today Haven't got strong but imo men got weaker. Tell me again who needs more reservation and empowerment in the current scenario.
Not intended to go off topic but please ignore the long post and continue.
Spectre bodyguard. Confirms it on her ID badge
I doubt that. If she were, the press, in their lust for drumming up non-stories, would already be singling her out as being ‘the first non-binary Bond girl’.
Don't give them ideas.
I think fans can get a little defensive about this sort of stuff personally. Bond isn't a particularly modern or nice character and some of his behaviour has been over the line. And that's fine imo. He's an anti hero. We can still root for him despite his flaws and we don't have to defend him as some heroic perfect role model who's never mistreated women or anything like that when people on the internet make a fuss. Because it's an argument we'd always lose anyway. He is sexist. He isn't PC. Some of the stuff in the books and older films is pretty uncomfortable and definitely wouldn't fly today. Instead of trying to make excuses and defend all as fine that we should just say yeah, that's true, but it's not real is it. And enjoy Bond for the ridiculously outdated guilty pleasure fantasy that it is.
It is a fantasy but it's also a fantasy set in today's world. Bond himself should be a throwback, as unPC as they get. But the world around him has always moved with the times. That should keep happening and that means that characters should call him out on how ridiculously old school he is.
And in the end, he still always gets the job done, gets the girl, wins the respect of those who wrote him off. That's what matters imo. Too PC, for me, would be something like Bond realising what a dick he's been and resolving to change. But characters telling him he should change, women not responding to his advances at first (or at all). All that's fine. I don't see that as being too PC. That's just them moving with the times as they always have.
Put it this way: Bond is a dinasour, and that's the way it should be. But the films aren't set in the 60s anymore. So he's bound to be challenged and questioned for that sort of behaviour.
You undermine people taking you seriously by using phrases like “feminist propaganda” and “feminsts blabber”. You are grouping together you particularly gripes under your description of feminism.
I actually agree that courts are biased against men, and think it unfair that men aren’t entitled to the state pension st the same age as women. But that’s a different kind of inequality, though equally important. Don’t lay the blame for that at the feet of women.
I’ve literally no idea what point you are trying to make using your facts and figures about homelessness etc to undermine aiming for equality and losing unwanted stereotypes.
Both good points.
Ha ha I can’t work out how to delete comments
Anyway. NTTD filming ......
I agree with most of that, but there’s no reason they can’t toss in a few easy shags. Women are just as up for it as men. Unless they’re feminists. Joke.
Oh I know. He should always get at least one shag per film even if he doesn't get the girl in the end. But I don't see it as an issue that not every female character instantly (edit, or eventually, plenty of times in the older films where they didn't want him at first but of course cave by the end) falls for him anymore. It's not so much being PC as it is making the films a bit more true to life imo.
I agree, it’s certainly not PC.
3-4 months
Yeah; no one ever buys the same clothes, watches or cars that he does! :D
@Matt007 Propaganda and Blabber are bad words for you, all right. You are either ignoring and nitpicking my words or you are confused about what I wrote above. In any case if you want to have a detail discussion on it pm me.
It will make things much easier. This thread was intended to discuss set photos. Everything is finishing up at Pinewood currently.
At this point it’s more of a speculation thread involving known spoilers. I really don’t see us getting more pictures unless they are officially released or leaked.