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Studios gave it a chance this fall and not enough people went to the cinema. Not enough money to make a profit for the studios and more importantly not enough for theaters to keep operating to the point they were LOSING MONEY. There were even considerations for shutting down theaters during the weekday so it would only be open for the weekend. That's how bad this was. No amount of wishful thinking was going to keep cinemas alive, not when people didn't feel safe going. Just because you say it's safe to go to the cinema doesn't mean everyone believed that.
Personally, going to the cinema hasn't crossed my mind at all.
To think, if Eon hadn’t have had this falling out with Boyle, we would have seen this film back in November of 2019 before all this started. :) The plagued production of NTTD...
I never took the November 2020 release date very seriously but when we started getting all this new marketing, I did start to think, hey, might this actually happen (although they won’t make as much money as they could have obviously)? That being said, this new release date is no surprise but it’s difficult to see it happening. Personally, I think the new release date should be November 2021 at the very earliest. Even this date may be too early.
IFP, give us a new adult Bond book with Horowitz writing!
Some on the radio have been talking about how someone has been cast as the new Bond and that due to the release delays, this means they have to keep their casting a secret for longer. :)
The nearest cinema to me for miles is Cineworld and that closes on Thursday.
It seems strange but it’s possible that Pet Semetary will turn out to be the very last film I saw on a big screen
Just to clarify a couple of things here - the only real attempt here was Tenet. None of the indie and arthouse films that got released really made a difference in the large scale of things. And with Tenet the results showed - things worked in the UK and Europe and other countries that were open. The main place where it didn't work, where it didn't make cinemas enough money to keep operating, was the US. And because of its outsized importance to the studuos, they all fled to 2021.
Of course Tenet alone wouldn't have sustained cinemas, the idea was that if Tenet was seen as successful other studios would stick with or even being forward their upcoming films that they've delayed. Unfortunately, because of Tenet's US performance specifically as the primary factor, the release had the opposite effect.
@CraigMooreOHMSS hard to say in all honesty. The argument goes that if studios don't take a hit to help cinemas now there won't be many left by the time their films come out. Just depends on how 'benevolent' they are to choose to potentially lose money on a specific film for the sake of keeping the infrastructure ticking.
Here's another good Guardian article.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/05/comment-film-industry-cineworld-closure-james-bond-no-time-to-die
Here's a good comment on the Guardian article (which is a reply to another comment):
"It's not its job (to save the cinema). But the whole franchise was born of the cinema, and exists because of the cinema. One might say that it's in Eon's interest to support the existence of cinema, for the survival of the franchise - if not for a sense of loyalty to a medium that made it unimaginably wealthy."
Screengrabs/video in production thread
https://deadline.com/2020/10/cineworld-regal-cinema-closures-mooky-greidinger-interview-andrew-cuomo-covid-1234591216/
Gee that doesn’t fit the tabloid narrative!
It is, that's why they are open in many other parts of the world
It is more than safe enough.
If 90% of the world deems something safe and 10% not then automatically 10% are right ?
No, it just means things are worse there than they are everywhere else. That's what I was getting at. Saying things like "if theatres were open in LA and NY, Tenet would have fared a lot better" is redundant. They weren't and it didn't, and it's because of the virus.
That's not the point.
You don't get infected even if all the other people in the auditorium have corona. It's almost impossible, because of the nature of a movie screening.
In New York restaurants, bowling alleys and other things are open. And those are definately more risky than movie theatres. The gouverneur just doesn't get it.
That is the point. And stating otherwise is just going around in circles and you are still only pulling from personal experience.
Depending on whether or not theatres survive, Plan B could either be a simultaneous PVOD and staggered cinema release where possible, a standard PVOD release, or something new. But an endless cycle of delays every 6 months has become wishful thinking as we head into ‘21.
The possibility of seeing a Bond film on the big screen again will largely depend on government support for theatre chains. If there is none, then we must face the reality that cinema-going will become a niche. As it stands now, theatre-going is not on people’s minds.
It really should have been done before now, even if only as a contingency. But there is no time like the present. It will be great if it ends up not having to be used, but I hope they at least put their heads together and talk about possibilities.
Agreed completely. Unprecedented times call for unprecedented measures. Like I said, the further these films get delayed, the less and less likely it is that there's going to be many theaters left to even show these films when the time comes next year.
I know that people feel different about it.
But the concept of a cinema screening with distanced seating is the same all around the world.
And by the way: there are even studies about this topic: https://newsabc.net/new-corona-study-air-in-the-office-is-much-more-polluted-than-that-in-the-cinema/