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La-La Land Records Present Moonraker: 45th Anniversary Remastered & Expanded 2CD Album

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  • mattjoesmattjoes Pay more attention to your chef
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    Very nice! I really wish the tapes weren't lost though. I heard they burned them in a bonfire outside of Paris. Some sort of ritual.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I'll be annoyed when I put the CD in and it turns out just to be a recording of Monty Norman laughing.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Pay more attention to your chef
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    =))

    "Your tapes are in another castle!"
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    My god the American postal system is slow. It's just got to LA. From Burbank(?!)

    Makes you wish that I could look up and know there was law and order in the heavens.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Wow this is incredible. So much new and unheard stuff, Barry wasn't kidding when he was upset at them cutting his score up for the film.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    edited December 16 Posts: 2,634
    This guy on Twitter reinstated an unused cue from the expanded soundtrack into the gondola scene and I love it.

  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited December 16 Posts: 2,179
    AgentJamesBond007 wrote: »
    This guy on Twitter reinstated an unused cue from the expanded soundtrack into the gondola scene and I love it.


    I have to say I prefer this music for this scene. It even makes the playful scene less playful and gives Moore's Bond a serious entrance. It's amazing how music can affect a film/scene. Amazing rendition of the Bond theme by Barry.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    This score will keep Tom making videos for months! It's so full of unused or unaltered stuff.
    I'd quite like an edit of the film with the intended score reinstated.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    edited December 16 Posts: 2,634
    mtm wrote: »
    This score will keep Tom making videos for months! It's so full of unused or unaltered stuff.
    I'd quite like an edit of the film with the intended score reinstated.

    Pretty sure Tom said he's going to do exactly that!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited December 16 Posts: 16,574
    Well that would be wonderful.

    I wonder if you wouldn't end up with a better-sounding film; not sure if the music in the film sounds as bad as the original score release.


    Incidentally: 'Launch Program Commence' :x
  • bcaloubcalou France
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    It's amazing to hear that. I never thought the double take pigeon scene could be even greater.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I stumbled upon these.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Interesting how the freefall track matches the final movie perfectly: I thought maybe it had been edited after Barry handed his music in, but no.

    Has anyone ever offered up Flight in Space as it is on the album to the film sequence? Does that match?
  • AgentM72AgentM72
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    Seeing those clips just made me realize, perhaps in the spirit of another big publicity push this week, that Moonraker's opening might be a very intentional nod to the success of Superman (1978).

    Moonraker was released in 1979. We all know Star Wars (1977) was a big influence on the film, but Superman would have closer to Moonraker's release and its filming. Bond and Superman were both at Pinewood, as well. And this scene is perhaps their answer -- "Look, 007 can 'fly' too, and it's for real!" -- plus they even literally puts Roger in blue, red, and yellow when you combine his wardrobe with the parachute prop!

    That can't all be coincidental, can it?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I just tried playing Flight in Space along to the shuttle scene, and it does seem to sync up: both the Noah's Ark and big reveal come at the right points. It does seem a bit of a shame what they did to Barry's music for this film.
  • bcaloubcalou France
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    Murdock wrote: »
    I stumbled upon these.


    Thanks for sharing ! How lucky are we to hear new renditions of the Bond Theme by Barry after all these years ?

    That being said, I beleive that leaving some silence during the freefall was a good call, it makes it more tense (of course I'm biased by all my viewings of the movie!).

    Side note: the shot a 1:20, with Bond then Jaws entering the frame, is one of the best shot in the entire saga. The synchronisation with the music is incredible!
  • bcaloubcalou France
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    AgentM72 wrote: »
    Seeing those clips just made me realize, perhaps in the spirit of another big publicity push this week, that Moonraker's opening might be a very intentional nod to the success of Superman (1978).

    Moonraker was released in 1979. We all know Star Wars (1977) was a big influence on the film, but Superman would have closer to Moonraker's release and its filming. Bond and Superman were both at Pinewood, as well. And this scene is perhaps their answer -- "Look, 007 can 'fly' too, and it's for real!" -- plus they even literally puts Roger in blue, red, and yellow when you combine his wardrobe with the parachute prop!

    That can't all be coincidental, can it?

    I love your theory. I always saw this scene as an attempt to go even farther than TSWLM (if you enjoyed the ski jump with parachute, you will love the plane jump with no parachute), but it's very tempting to make the Superman connection, indeed :)
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 11:22am Posts: 16,574
    bcalou wrote: »

    Side note: the shot a 1:20, with Bond then Jaws entering the frame, is one of the best shot in the entire saga. The synchronisation with the music is incredible!

    It really is an amazing shot isn't it, incredibly exciting.


    So I guess if that kickstarter had gone ahead to rerecord the score we wouldn't have got all these bits? Did they have the original sheet music or were they going to transcribe from the movie?
  • mattjoesmattjoes Pay more attention to your chef
    edited 4:19pm Posts: 7,055
    That freefall music doesn't really match the onscreen action (except for the bits that were already in the film, of course). I don't think the video necessarily got it wrong, but rather the scene must've been edited after Barry composed the music, so it's not possible to achieve a perfect match. That shot from 11 to 17 seconds has got the Bond Theme at full intensity but it only shows "Roger Moore" approaching "Jean-Pierre Castaldi". It makes much more sense for the buildup of the theme to score that part. Also, the gunshot chords at the end run too long.

    The gondola chase music really does fit though.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 7:42pm Posts: 16,574
    Neil Bulk, producer of these expanded releases, has re-skeeted someone's post of an OHMSS poster on Bluesky. Might well be nothing and just because it's a Bond film at Christmas, but I guess that shouldn't stop us reading more into it :D
    mattjoes wrote: »
    That freefall music doesn't really match the onscreen action (except for the bits that were already in the film, of course). I don't think the video necessarily got it wrong, but rather the scene must've been edited after Barry composed the music, so it's not possible to achieve a perfect match. That shot from 11 to 17 seconds has got the Bond Theme at full intensity but it only shows "Roger Moore" approaching "Jean-Pierre Castaldi". It makes much more sense for the buildup of the theme to score that part. Also, the gunshot chords at the end run too long.

    I think it matches perfectly to be honest, and seems in keeping with Barry's style which wasn't to Mickey Mouse everything. Compare how he has the Bond theme playing in the TLD PTS when, say, Bond is 'only' running along next to the Land Rover. The main Bond melody doesn't even come in when anything in particular is onscreen to match it, it just comes in when it's right for the music.
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