EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards

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  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    The idea of Brosnan returning as an older Bond I feel has become a cliche online. I feel if it were to happen it’d just be fan service at this point. I’m not sure it’d be worthwhile.
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    007HallY wrote: »
    The idea of Brosnan returning as an older Bond I feel has become a cliche online. I feel if it were to happen it’d just be fan service at this point. I’m not sure it’d be worthwhile.

    I don’t think Amazon is above cliche fan service though. While I think the opportunity for a 5th Brosnan Bond film has long since passed, I also can see them trying to poach him for some sort of project now that they own the IP. At the very least, I wouldn’t mind him narrating some sort of documentary or maybe even doing the voice again in a video game.
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    007HallY wrote: »
    The idea of Brosnan returning as an older Bond I feel has become a cliche online. I feel if it were to happen it’d just be fan service at this point. I’m not sure it’d be worthwhile.

    I don’t think Amazon is above cliche fan service though. While I think the opportunity for a 5th Brosnan Bond film has long since passed, I also can see them trying to poach him for some sort of project now that they own the IP. At the very least, I wouldn’t mind him narrating some sort of documentary or maybe even doing the voice again in a video game.

    I'd like to think Amazon will want to prioritise a single (and new era) Bond rather than having a one off Bond movie, but it's obviously impossible to say definitively at this point. My instinct is it won't happen (at least as a full movie - seems more like the premise of a Bond advert or something, and even that'd be misjudged I reckon). I'd be up for Pierce narrating some sort of documentary though.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    007HallY wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    The idea of Brosnan returning as an older Bond I feel has become a cliche online. I feel if it were to happen it’d just be fan service at this point. I’m not sure it’d be worthwhile.

    I don’t think Amazon is above cliche fan service though. While I think the opportunity for a 5th Brosnan Bond film has long since passed, I also can see them trying to poach him for some sort of project now that they own the IP. At the very least, I wouldn’t mind him narrating some sort of documentary or maybe even doing the voice again in a video game.

    I'd like to think Amazon will want to prioritise a single (and new era) Bond rather than having a one off Bond movie, but it's obviously impossible to say definitively at this point. My instinct is it won't happen (at least as a full movie - seems more like the premise of a Bond advert or something, and even that'd be misjudged I reckon). I'd be up for Pierce narrating some sort of documentary though.

    Maybe he could be the narrator for an anniversary documentary, like how Rog did for Happy Anniversary, 007.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    007HallY wrote: »
    The idea of Brosnan returning as an older Bond I feel has become a cliche online. I feel if it were to happen it’d just be fan service at this point. I’m not sure it’d be worthwhile.

    Of course he's just said he'd be interested in the idea of returning as Bond. There's no indication he's been officially asked by Amazon. It's just something the media has picked up and ran a headline with. It may just as well come to nothing as come to pass.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Broz being a childhood Bond for millennials is clouding their judgement. What Bond needs is new blood, not a Boomer taking a role that should belong to someone 40 years his junior.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Well giving Brosnan Bond another way to die would only be fair.

  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Pierce will always be the Bond I grew up with, as much I wish he got better scripts, I'm glad he finished when he did.

    In my opinion, we don't need another "old man" Bond we've had that with NTTD and prematurely with Skyfall to a degree. Time for some new blood
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    If they didn't do all the old man Bond stuff with the Craig era I would be 100% down for an old man Bond film with Brosnan and give him the 5th movie that he deserved. But amazon needs to start fresh with a new Bond and put their stamp on the series
  • edited March 7 Posts: 7,901
    God, as if things couldn't get any worse!
    I think I'd rather see Timothee Chalamet as Bond! 🤯
  • edited March 8 Posts: 2,947
    There's a new Hollywood Reporter article that purports to go inside the Amazon takeover.

    No scoops, but here is the sequence of events:

    Amazon had "approached the Broccolis with pitches for a TV series based on Moneypenny, another about Felix Leiter, and “maybe even something involving a female 007.” This met with disapproval.

    Then Amazon hoped that Courtenay Valenti, “who had come aboard MGM about a year after Amazon bought it, and whom Broccoli was said to have liked” could loosen up Barbara, but this didn’t pan out.

    Relations got even worse when Jennifer Salke, head of Amazon Studios, referred to Bond as “content” and offended Broccoli. Wilson was also unhappy, because he was “unable to set up meetings with Amazon’s top brass.”

    Amazon suggested several Bond actors, “but none the Broccolis would sign off on.” Wilson decided to retire, and this "was said to be a big factor in Broccoli’s ultimate decision to walk away from the franchise. After 30 years of Bond movies, she no longer had the stomach or stamina for the endless studio battles or the years-long Bond production marathons, certainly not on her own. And there was no obvious successor ­— not even Wilson’s son, Greg, who’s been working on the recent films but who, insiders say, wasn’t considered ready to step into his father’s shoes."

    Bezos then read Broccoli’s Wall Street Journal quote about Amazon executives being “****ing idiots,” got on the phone, and said “I don’t care what it costs, get rid of her.” This is according to an insider who confirmed that her go-away price was “close to a billion dollars.”
  • ShakenNotStirredShakenNotStirred Canada, True North Strong and Free
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    007HallY wrote: »
    The idea of Brosnan returning as an older Bond I feel has become a cliche online. I feel if it were to happen it’d just be fan service at this point. I’m not sure it’d be worthwhile.

    I feel Amazon will play it safe for their first film. A crowd pleaser with the Bond hallmarks. After the 6-8 year hiatus it will be nice to see.

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    Why does it have to be Bond? Why not write a film for Pierce in which he's a retired MI6 agent who had a code name he cannot share.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
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    Hasn't Pierce already made half a dozen movies like that?

    And haven't they all been horrible?
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    You know why they call him the November Man????
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    Hasn't Pierce already made half a dozen movies like that?

    And haven't they all been horrible?

    All the more reason he shouldn't return as a Bond in his 70s. Who needs that? Good grief, Harrison Ford ranting in his underwear made old age all the more unappealing.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    Revelator wrote: »

    Amazon suggested several Bond actors, “but none the Broccolis would sign off on.” Wilson decided to retire, and this "was said to be a big factor in Broccoli’s ultimate decision to walk away from the franchise. After 30 years of Bond movies, she no longer had the stomach or stamina for the endless studio battles or the years-long Bond production marathons, certainly not on her own. And there was no obvious successor ­— not even Wilson’s son, Greg, who’s been working on the recent films but who, insiders say, wasn’t considered ready to step into his father’s shoes."

    Bezos then read Broccoli’s Wall Street Journal quote about Amazon executives being “****ing idiots,” got on the phone, and said “I don’t care what it costs, get rid of her.” This is according to an insider who confirmed that her go-away price was “close to a billion dollars.”

    I would be very curious to know which actors were pitched to Barbara.
    And second, a multi-billionaire getting rid of people, no matter the costs, seems to be the new normal.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Bezos as Blofeld has become such a meme I hope it actually personally bothers him every day that this is how people actually think of him outside his 1% percent bubble. He can use all the money in the world to buy Bond, but he can’t acquire the street cred.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
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    Maybe he sees himself as Savalas's Blofeld. I wouldn't mind that.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    We already know the next film won't release in October 2027 because the batman part 2 moved there, so it's either late November/December (or later) or Summer 2027. That narrows things down a bit. :-?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I think they’ll be lucky to make ‘27 now: someone said the deal doesn’t even close until May, that makes it very tight.
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    Bezos as Blofeld has become such a meme I hope it actually personally bothers him every day that this is how people actually think of him outside his 1% percent bubble. He can use all the money in the world to buy Bond, but he can’t acquire the street cred.

    Barbara is not a small fish.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    mtm wrote: »
    I think they’ll be lucky to make ‘27 now: someone said the deal doesn’t even close until May, that makes it very tight.

    Trouble is you can't release Bond in January or February, that would just look like they don't have confidence in their product. I hope this doesn't become another Batman Part 2 that keeps evaporating just when it feels time to start getting hyped.
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    mtm wrote: »
    I think they’ll be lucky to make ‘27 now: someone said the deal doesn’t even close until May, that makes it very tight.

    Yeah, I don’t think there’s some secret Bond script that Amazon’s waiting to make. I think the same rules apply that it did with EON - before an official announcement it’s safe to assume formal work hasn’t begun (there might be ideas or plans, but no script etc).
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Have Amazon acquired the rights to the unused scripts that were in the EON vaults? MGW's Bond origin story from the mid-'80s, Logan's unused Bond and Charlotte King plot from SP, etc?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I think they’ll be lucky to make ‘27 now: someone said the deal doesn’t even close until May, that makes it very tight.

    Yeah, I don’t think there’s some secret Bond script that Amazon’s waiting to make. I think the same rules apply that it did with EON - before an official announcement it’s safe to assume formal work hasn’t begun (there might be ideas or plans, but no script etc).

    I guess they’re actually further back than Eon were: at least their prospective Bond 26 had producers at this point!
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Revelator wrote: »
    Amazon had "approached the Broccolis with pitches for a TV series based on Moneypenny, another about Felix Leiter, and “maybe even something involving a female 007.” This met with disapproval.

    I suppose these are what we are most likely to see soon. These will be easier and quicker to get off the ground than casting and promoting a new Bond actor.
  • edited March 8 Posts: 4,736
    echo wrote: »
    Revelator wrote: »
    Amazon had "approached the Broccolis with pitches for a TV series based on Moneypenny, another about Felix Leiter, and “maybe even something involving a female 007.” This met with disapproval.

    I suppose these are what we are most likely to see soon. These will be easier and quicker to get off the ground than casting and promoting a new Bond actor.

    The major problem I can see with these ideas are that they really need a new Bond era to establish these incarnations of the characters and the actors playing them (and honestly, that’s a tricky sell - would Jeffery Wright have signed on to play Leiter in CR had there been a clause in his contract stating he had to do 3 series of a tv show playing the character? I don’t think it’s worth it for an established character actor, and is in many ways a commitment comparable to playing Bond in that scenario).

    They could of course go in a different direction with it - do a Moneypenny adaptation set in the 60s, a Felix Leiter adaptation set in a different ‘timeline’, but at some point I think that becomes disjointed and not even instantly recognisable as even being part of the 007 brand to a portion of ordinary viewers. Even if it is, they’d likely encounter the opposite issue - that’s to say it’s too niche with these characters not of much interest to non-Bond fans. They’d likely be of varying quality and there’s no guarantee of viewers who watch Bond films tuning into them (or indeed new viewers of Bond movies coming along due to these). To be honest, I suspect all those pitches were early ideas, and there’s no guarantee they’d be greenlit when put into the practice of writing/development. And to some extent I think they’ll want to concentrate on the main film.

    Bond isn’t a franchise easy to split off into these different threads. It’s not like Star Wars with its ensemble casts, and tight but long spanning ‘universe’ which gives more creative opportunities. If they’re going to do it I think it should be about an original character from the official movies (ie. a Jinx or Zukovsky type) who proves popular, has an actor and team willing to commit to developing said character in their own context, and aims at being distinct from the Bond films while still having that thread with the main movies. If they can’t do that I’d suggest Amazon just invest in a Bond theme park or something as it’d be less hassle and probably more worthwhile to people.
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