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I'm not saying we kill every person who breaks the law or anything, but it should be used for people like this guy
Nope. It would be more expensive actually.
Not trying to derail the thread either, but the death penalty is not a deterrent. In this particular case, this man went on a killing spree, you think previous executions made him think twice? You think a white supremacist would think twice about murdering blacks because he might get the chair, or lethal injections or whatever? If it was the case, then the USA would already be a peaceful haven.
Maybe instead of executing him, or the next one like him, or the next one, if proper gun control laws were voted and implemented properly, such despicable crime could be avoided, or at least the number of massacres reduced. You want a madman to not kill? Don't try to scare him off, keep the guns away from him.
It would be an act of mercy to free this soul from its tormented physical anchor.
To me, he looks a bit like the killer twerp that Michael Pitt played in Murder by Numbers.
What would it bring? Not sinking to their level for one. Other than this very little, but it is still something. There is no perfect punishment. It does not forever instate anything to execute someone. Death penalty is not an incentive, or else the USA would be a haven of peace. In any case, executing someone for a crime is like closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. By all means, lock him in and throw away the key. He deserves to be punished, however imperfect this punishment will be.
But I will add again that proper gun control laws enforced in the US would help far more to actually avoid such heinous crime to be repeated than executing a thousand white supremacists.
Obama is a dumbshit. More people are killed by bicycles than are killed by guns. Cities which have Gun Control like Chicago, DC, and Baltimore have a high murder rates, and he does not even say anything about that.
Hey, the mods get really touchy about adult language around here.
Why do you talk about the cities that have implemented strict gun control laws and not the countries? It seems like an odd comparison. What works/doesn't work in a municipality has little bearing on what can work nationwide. For one thing transporting guns into New York or Chicago is very very easy. Just drive in. Transporting guns into another country becomes much more difficult. We should be asking ourselves "do strict gun control laws work in other similar countries (Western Europe, Canada, Australia etc)?"
@chrisisall I presume he's talking about accidental bicycle accidents. Which is a strange comparison, because bicycles have a lot of utility outside use as a murder weapon. Guns utility is much more limited. Not exactly 1001 uses.
I don't think other countries have 'the right to bear arms' enshrined in their constitution. So no matter what gun control laws are in effect, if the constitution guarantees your right, someone will interpret it to mean that one should have that right no matter what. Keep in mind also that in the US a lot of laws are implemented on a state basis, and some states are more keen on guns than others.
The culture is the issue. South Carolina is a perfect example because of the Confederacy and slavery etc.
This is a somewhat personal issue for me as I'm from Charleston, and at one time lived about 1 mile from the church in question. I've walked past that front door seen in the security footage 100 times.
How do people feel about gun control generally in South Carolina....are they for it?
Do you think it can make a difference in that state?
Definitely the access to guns is something that's most prevalent in the US. Guns are not so commonplace in other countries that I've lived in. Having said that, most other countries are not so based on the 'individual' as the US is, but rather based on the 'collective'. So again, I think it's a culture thing more than an access to guns thing, although definitely if there was less access and more restrictions on guns then it's likely there will be less violent incidents like this, but I wonder how much less..
Do the research yourself.
12,000 gun deaths vs. 700 + bicycle fatalities?
well let's ban them!!!
33,000 were killed by autos, do you want to ban cars?
Typical statist.
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Cars have massive utility beyond death, a modern economy cannot operate without them. Modern economies can and do operate without guns in large supply.
There is something called the US Constitution and 2nd Amendment.
So, by your question does the first amendment apply to computers?