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Yet I think it's much darker than any Bond movie so far. We've had parricide and torture before, but not like that.
Like to be in that position.
" My Precious " ;)
Have to agree.
Amazing
- The moment when I realised Bond was going to eject himself I felt like a little boy again. Although execution a bit lacking. Would a proper shot of him ejecting from the car and a union jack parachute been too much? Probably but sod it - I wanted it.
- The torture scene from Colonel Sun. Yes it was toned down (still a bit strong for a 12A) but amazed we got it at all.
Good
- Gunbarrel at the beginning with an improved design from the last two.
- Frenetic helicopter fight. The most G force in a Bond film since MR.
- Opening Goodfellas shot.
- The Q's lab scene.
- Andrew Scott
- Hinx's entrance.
- The humourous use of the gadgets in the car chase.
- Mr White scene.
- 'Stay!'
- Plane sequence.
- Train fight.
- A proper villain's lair.
- The cat.
- Ernst getting Donald Pleasance's scar.
- Madeline walking off and leaving Bond had shades of Gala at the end of Fleming's MR.
- Proper locations after SF's endless studio sets.
Bad
- The design of the GB still not brilliant.
- Dont really care for the caption after the GB. Why cant the dot open up on the action like it always has done?
- Not sure I like all this veering off the Fleming piste and tinkering with Bond's past.
- The title song. Saying its outright bad is probably a bit harsh. Theres some great sweeping strings in there and it builds nicely but then meh.
- Not sure about the story. So Bond tracks the lair via White's computer and then fetches up at the station and Blofeld randomly sends a car for him? I presume Denbigh is tracking Bond and then tipping off Ernst.
- Bond destroys the whole lair with one shot? And you thought the hotel in OOS was volatile.
- The climax. The whole thing in the MI6 building felt tagged on and Blofeld really should have just flown away. To have him blown up twice was ridiculous. Not even sure we need Blofeld at the end at all. Just stopping Denbigh would have been enough and then one final scene of Blofeld with the scar saying 'I'll be back' or some such.
Plain awful
- Thomas Newman: Are you taking the piss? Literally identical to SF. The character nods to MP and Judi Dench are fine but the helicopter fight underscored with Barry's 'Hes Dangerous' for example would have been epic rather than serving up a plate of SF's score warmed up in the microwave.
- 'I love you'. I thought Vesper and Bond couldve done with a couple more scenes to be totally believable but this was ridiculous. Shared a hotel room and a train journey together and thats it - theyre in love. Utter bollocks.
Actually, yes, one note on that scene. Blofeld tells Bond the second needle will penetrate a certain part of his brain that will effect his ability to recognise people. Sure, okay. Bad news then. The needle goes in and then has zero effect on Bond. What gives?
effect ............ So I guess he missed ? Or being told " She loved him" ?
Although, it is a bit of a mistake :))
Why does M tell the Police "Mallory, 00 Division". Considering "00" section no longer exists it was part of the story duh! why not say "Mr Mallory SIS" or something along those lines. The Dialog is truly awful at time. I know they wanted to pay homage but paying homage to Lupe's "I love you". Logan, Purvis, Wade are finished for me. It is time for fresh blood on the writing front. Seydoux spoke before that she though her and Craig had great chemistry on set, it sadly did not translate to screen. Inside the old MI6 building at the end "Do you trust me" while they fall I expect Zimmer Dark Knight theme to begin playing. It a bloody frustrating film, as it start so well.
1. How does Bond and Madeleine know when they get to the train station that a car would come for them?
2. When Bond is being tagged, why is he surprised and not knowing what to expect or asking what it is when he has already had the same thing fitted in CR?
But then you have some amazing moments the PTS. The car chase is great but not long enough, I love Bond with the mouse - "who are you working for?". The fight on the train was great but over far too soon, expect the rest of its on the chopping room floor. The torcher scene totally Room 101 1984 Orwellian excellence.
For me Logan, Purvis & Wade produced not enough dialog which utilised the amazing cast. Mendes was way out of his depth and focussed so much on action he sacrificed real substance. This could have been the best Bond ever but for me they blew it in the second half, the ending was woeful and does not leaving me wanting more. Craig as Bond is excellent but I have a real problem with how much he seems to be enjoying himself too much.
The film should have been driven by Bond's continued desire to hunt down Quantum and avenge Vesper. The need for the story to be personal and related to Bond was just not required. The love story in Spectre is not required.
On the subject of the drills in the torture scene, Shame Bond didn't
Say something like
" So you're going to " Bore" me to death !"
Probably the very worst thing of the film: Repeated use of the term 'The 00 program' WTF?
This isnt Bourne. Its the 00 section in books and films. Always has been always should be. We're not Americans for christ's sake.
You bastard. You really know how to wind me up!! Rather appropriately my mind had completely forgotten the charisma black hole was even in the film.
Seriously just what is the point of this guy? 3 films in and he just gets three lines of exposition and then serves zero purpose whatsoever every single time. Has he done a single thing in any of his films that has had any bearing on anything at all? Please just put him out of my misery. Its bad enough all MI6 staff seem to be at Bond's personal beck and call (yeah f**k you 009 Bond's nicked your DB10 and anything you need you'll have to sort for yourself because Q has nipped off to Austria) but do we really need to bloat the cast further by having this empty suit tagging along at every juncture. Just quietly pack him off to Dignitas and no one will notice.
He's been in more films than Naomi, Ben and Ralph but ask anyone leaving the cinema if they can name his character and no one would have a clue. Most people probably didnt even notice he was present half the time.
Its like Rory just keeps turning up on set and thinks if he keeps his head down no one will notice and they'll just keep paying him.
Never in the field of the dramatic arts has such a dull, pointless character been portrayed by such an unremarkable actor. Honestly I'd sooner see Smithers or Colthorpe back next time round.
Having read 1984 last year, I appreciated the Orwellian moments and themes in the film relating to surveillance by the government ("not an pleasant feeling being watched is it"). The drilling torture sequence (for me) echoed the final of that book and was rightly uncomfortable to watch.
While I did not have the same "buzzing" feeling I got from SF on walking out of the cinema, I knew i'd just seen a firm top 10 Bond film. I suspect it will probably hold up better than its predecessor too.
It's a strange film actually, at its lightest Spectre is quite daft and I felt there were times we were slipping back into caricature Bond. However, at its darkest the film is more disturbing than anything we've seen from Craig.
8/10
That was my feeling too. I couldn't quite put my finger on it at first but on the drive home I realised that I didn't have the same 'high' as I had from seeing CR and SF for the first time.
Still, a fine effort though and probably an 8/10 rating from me also.
SF isnt that great on repeated viewings. It dwells too much on Bond "not being fit" and, a few good overseas segments aside, all that London caper grates. The final scenes in Scotland should have been epic but end up being like a bunch of adults playing Home Alone.
SP feels like a proper Bond film right through. Only the ending being in London let's it down in that regard.
Good point. For some reason it reminded me of Saw when Bond saw those photos of Vesper, LeChiffe etc.
Also, what are the odds @Getafix won't be happy about a certain cameo appearance?
Mention, but no photo. Almost as if even Spectre doesn't recognise QOS. ;)
You did miss it his photo was there ;)
Two Imax viewings followed by 4 regular cinema viewings should do it. Maybe a couple more if it stays in cinema long enough.
I may be begging both Craig, and dare I say it, even Mendes, to come back and do the obvious Fleming inspired sequel.
I know I will still hate the song though.
Nothing can salvage that. Will have my OHMSS equipped headphones ready to go!