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  • thomasetchethomasetche France
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    HI Guys (and girls !) I'm Thomas and i've been watching you for a while in this forum ( you crossed me so many times and yet never saw me ;) )
    And I finally decided to throw myself into it and join you in this great community!
    I've just saw the movie this morning, and i'll be delighted to inform you about what you want to know (gun barrel or else...) , with some spoiler tags of course...
    Well...if you expect me to talk of course ;) See you !
  • FitzochrisFitzochris
    Posts: 102
    thomasetche wrote: »
    HI Guys (and girls !) I'm Thomas and i've been watching you for a while in this forum ( you crossed me so many times and yet never saw me ;) )
    And I finally decided to throw myself into it and join you in this great community!
    I've just saw the movie this morning, and i'll be delighted to inform you about what you want to know (gun barrel or else...) , with some spoiler tags of course...
    Well...if you expect me to talk of course ;) See you !

    You have seen the previous 43 pages of this thread?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    Welcome @thomasetche . what did you think of Spectre. :)
  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    Superintendent wrote: »
    The video of the gunbarrel:

    https://scontent-vie1-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpf1/t50.2886-16/10946798_1495756094058021_1511167070_n.mp4

    Anyone know which showing this was? Have a feeling it's the 7:30 last night where I was... That was epic
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    DrGorner wrote: »
    To be honest, I was just happy to see it back in its proper place. :)

    I am too. Very much so. Still peeved at Mendes for not last time.

    Ok the blurry Bond was neat but not worth loosing the GB.. it was Bond's 50th for crying out loud!!!

    Lol I guess Bond thought since he was blurry no need for cover ...No one could see him.


  • thomasetchethomasetche France
    Posts: 18
    DrGorner wrote: »
    Welcome @thomasetche . what did you think of Spectre. :)

    Honestly...it was brillant ! To be honest with you, i'm not a big fan of the Craig Era. I liked Casino Royale but i don't really feel it like a James Bond Movie..more like a pre-James Bond, and i hated Skyfall. On the other hand, i loved Quantum Of Solace...Yeah i know it's weird lol and it's not what the most think about...
    But damn...Spectre really rocks ! For me James Bond is definitely back again ! The one i love, smooth, with some humour, who gets girls and not depressive.
    IMO, It's definitely the best Bond movie of Craig (for me the only one in which DC IS REALLY James Bond) and probably one of the best for the 30 later years.
    I'm dying to see it again in theatres in a couple of weeks.

    For now, maybe the only thing that disappointed me a little was
    there is not a big fight between Bond and a bad guy (Waltz or anyone else) at the end. That is the same thing which lacks for me In Casino Royale or Skyfall...but you can find it in QoS :p
  • FitzochrisFitzochris
    Posts: 102
    thomasetche wrote: »
    DrGorner wrote: »
    Welcome @thomasetche . what did you think of Spectre. :)

    Honestly...it was brillant ! To be honest with you, i'm not a big fan of the Craig Era. I liked Casino Royale but i don't really feel it like a James Bond Movie..more like a pre-James Bond, and i hated Skyfall. On the other hand, i loved Quantum Of Solace...Yeah i know it's weird lol and it's not what the most think about...
    But damn...Spectre really rocks ! For me James Bond is definitely back again ! The one i love, smooth, with some humour, who gets girls and not depressive.
    IMO, It's definitely the best Bond movie of Craig (for me the only one in which DC IS REALLY James Bond) and probably one of the best for the 30 later years.
    I'm dying to see it again in theatres in a couple of weeks.

    For now, maybe the only thing that disappointed me a little was
    there is not a big fight between Bond and a bad guy (Waltz or anyone else) at the end. That is the same thing which lacks for me In Casino Royale or Skyfall...but you can find it in QoS :p

    Er Hinks?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I can see your point and that part did feel a little " Flat" for me. Although
    Who knows ...................... Maybe next time ? ;)
  • thomasetchethomasetche France
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    Fitzochris wrote: »
    thomasetche wrote: »

    Er Hinks?

    Well...
    the fight between Bond and Hinx was great but it happens in the middle of the movie, in the train scene. Not at the end like a good GoldenGate Fight in AVTK or in TB, GE, OHMSS, LTK...well it's a long list, but you know what i mean i guess ;)
  • SatoriousSatorious Brushing up on a little Danish
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    To be honest, I'm sure most of us could find something to nit pick about it. But wow - this was certainly better than I was anticipating and what a difference it makes moving it back to the start. The smile on my face when the film started was immeasurable.
  • thomasetchethomasetche France
    Posts: 18
    Satorious wrote: »
    To be honest, I'm sure most of us could find something to nit pick about it. But wow - this was certainly better than I was anticipating and what a difference it makes moving it back to the start. The smile on my face when the film started was immeasurable.

    What a great feeling to start the movie with it ! You know you're gonna watch a Bond Movie for sure. I've been waiting to live that moment again since 2002...

  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    Yes, give it a few weeks until everyone's seen it then go
    " nit pick" crazy on it. :)) for now I too have a big grin on
    my face.
  • ra7968ra7968
    Posts: 16
    It would be cool if we established a better naming convention for the various riffs in the Main theme. I have heard people variously refer to pieces as "morse code", "vamp", "pyramid", etc. Much better than the syllabic "duh duh dunnnhhh". As many here have been on this list and have contributed much more than I have, I do not want to be so presumptuous as to define it for everyone. And maybe this has been attempted already. Incidentally, I would call the Vick Flick guitar portion (the Asian inspired piece written by Monte Norman) "The Twang!".

    So now we have a way of describing the Gunbarrell "cues" better. Morse Code plays in darkness, white dots accompany "vamp", gunbarrell opens, shot, end with "pyramid". "Twang" not used.....etc, etc...
  • Dave1974Dave1974
    Posts: 27
    I like all the gun barrels in one way or another, and it's not even a deal breaker to have it at the end (although it's close), but sure nice to see it in that way again.
  • FitzochrisFitzochris
    edited October 2015 Posts: 102
    thomasetche wrote: »


    Fitzochris wrote: »
    thomasetche wrote: »

    Er Hinks?

    Well...
    the fight between Bond and Hinx was great but it happens in the middle of the movie, in the train scene. Not at the end like a good GoldenGate Fight in AVTK or in TB, GE, OHMSS, LTK...well it's a long list, but you know what i mean i guess ;)

    True, but that fight was good enough for me. Bond's dual with the main villain is more psychological than physical in this movie.
  • thomasetchethomasetche France
    Posts: 18
    Fitzochris wrote: »
    thomasetche wrote: »

    Fitzochris wrote: »
    thomasetche wrote: »

    Er Hinks?

    Well...
    the fight between Bond and Hinx was great but it happens in the middle of the movie, in the train scene. Not at the end like a good GoldenGate Fight in AVTK or in TB, GE, OHMSS, LTK...well it's a long list, but you know what i mean i guess ;)

    True, but that fight was good enough for me. Bond's dual with the main villain is more psychological than physical in this movie.

    I quite agree with you ! But for exemple, in TND you know you're not gonna get a fight between Bond and Carver so instead of that, you get a fight with Stemper. I would enjoy something like a fight between Bond and C for exemple. But it's ok, i enjoyed the movie anyway. It just would have been the cherry on the cake ;) .
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    Posts: 1,661
    The SPECTRE gun barrel music appears to be the wrong notes.

    It should start

    Bdah... baaa

    Bdah... baaa

    Bdah bdah bah!

    Tomorrow Never Dies used the end section of the JB theme which is not what John Barry intended. Just a minor niggle but times (and musical notes) change!
  • FitzochrisFitzochris
    Posts: 102
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    The SPECTRE gun barrel music appears to be the wrong notes.

    It should start

    Bdah... baaa

    Bdah... baaa

    Bdah bdah bah!

    Tomorrow Never Dies used the end section of the JB theme which is not what John Barry intended. Just a minor niggle but times (and musical notes) change!

    No, you're quite right and share my thoughts.
  • chrisgallenchrisgallen Italy
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    LOL , We can clearly see the gun while he is walking , this is ridicolous :D
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    Posts: 5,745
    chrisgallen wrote: »
    LOL , We can clearly see the gun while he is walking , this is ridicolous :D

    I mean.. since when have we known Craig's Bond for subtlety. He seems very much like the type to just walk about with it in his hand.
  • chrisgallenchrisgallen Italy
    Posts: 8
    JWESTBROOK wrote: »
    chrisgallen wrote: »
    LOL , We can clearly see the gun while he is walking , this is ridicolous :D

    I mean.. since when have we known Craig's Bond for subtlety. He seems very much like the type to just walk about with it in his hand.

    Sorry for my english , I'm italian :)
    I think that if he is showing the gun while he is walking , the whole gunbarrel thing becomes ridicolous
    The hitman beyond the "barrel" wants to fire Bond while he is not expecting to be under fire
    If the hitman sees the gun , the entire gunbarrel concept does not have sense for me
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    Posts: 5,745
    chrisgallen wrote: »
    JWESTBROOK wrote: »
    chrisgallen wrote: »
    LOL , We can clearly see the gun while he is walking , this is ridicolous :D

    I mean.. since when have we known Craig's Bond for subtlety. He seems very much like the type to just walk about with it in his hand.

    Sorry for my english , I'm italian :)
    I think that if he is showing the gun while he is walking , the whole gunbarrel thing becomes ridicolous
    The hitman beyond the "barrel" wants to fire Bond while he is not expecting to be under fire
    If the hitman sees the gun , the entire gunbarrel concept does not have sense for me

    In my eyes, there comes a point when one over-scrutinizes something that amounts to only a few short seconds at the beginning.

    I under stand the traditionalist standpoint, and your argument, but ultimately all that matters to me is that the gun barrel makes editorial sense. CR get's a pass, but I think every other movie should have it at the start. That's the point in which I stop criticizing it.

    To each his own.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    JWESTBROOK wrote: »
    chrisgallen wrote: »
    JWESTBROOK wrote: »
    chrisgallen wrote: »
    LOL , We can clearly see the gun while he is walking , this is ridicolous :D

    I mean.. since when have we known Craig's Bond for subtlety. He seems very much like the type to just walk about with it in his hand.

    Sorry for my english , I'm italian :)
    I think that if he is showing the gun while he is walking , the whole gunbarrel thing becomes ridicolous
    The hitman beyond the "barrel" wants to fire Bond while he is not expecting to be under fire
    If the hitman sees the gun , the entire gunbarrel concept does not have sense for me

    In my eyes, there comes a point when one over-scrutinizes something that amounts to only a few short seconds at the beginning.

    I under stand the traditionalist standpoint, and your argument, but ultimately all that matters to me is that the gun barrel makes editorial sense. CR get's a pass, but I think every other movie should have it at the start. That's the point in which I stop criticizing it.

    To each his own.

    Agreed ...Although I give both a pass to QoS for something new and a chide for making ending the movie with a GB an option.

  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 7,415
    At the end of the day, it was just brilliant to see the gun barrel back at the beginning. My only gripe was why didn't Mendes open out on the dot instead of a fade out?
    Kinda built us up...and then let us down again!
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,216
    Using the dot to open out and reveal the letters would have been just as effective I think.

    Great to have it back but one of the least interesting gunbarrels.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    The GB fades?

    That does it! NOT going to see this "film".
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    :))
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,154
    Thanks for posting that video. I think it looks great!!! Cannot wait until next week!!!! Interesting how it dims slightly when the blood falls leaving just the red circle and Bond. Reminds me of the end credits image in DR NO. I much prefer this to any of the other Craig versions.....just from the video. No complaints from me. :)
  • Mi6LisbonBranchMi6LisbonBranch Lisbon, Portugal
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    Hi guys, am i the only one who would love to see the PTS a la OHMSS with the names of ....Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson present ....coming on screen .. da da da ....
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Mi6LisbonBranch wrote: »
    Hi guys, am i the only one who would love to see the PTS a la OHMSS with the names of ....Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson present ....coming on screen .. da da da ....

    Its a great idea but the 50th anniversary was the time for it to be done along with a classic GB at the start.
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