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variety.com/1994/film/news/dalton-bails-out-as-bond-120067/amp/
Yes, this is what I've read as one of the main reasons that Dalton did not return for GE. It sounds right to me.
Had MGM/UA not been so concerned about the casting, would Broccoli have changed his mind and allowed Dalton to do only one more film? I think there's a strong possibility. The Broccolis really liked Dalton and wanted to work with him again.
theweek.com/articles/447045/timothy-dalton-opens-about-penny-dreadful-leaving-james-bond-demon-all
This does make more sense of his departure, though there's no mention of MGM/UA wanting him out. Also interesting is his statement about having the script ready and that it was "quite a good story." Can any Dalton experts pinpoint which draft/script this was?
That's covered in Field & Chowdhury's book Some Kind of Hero.
Yes. He's referring to the Bond 17 script by William Osborne and William Davies.
I wish we could read it in full
Or rather see the film.
I see a lot more complicated than we see the movie. But reading a script from 27 years ago, that even the producers do not remember, may be more possible. Take a look:
https://propstoreauction.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/26/lot/3381/JAMES-BOND-BOND-17-Draft-Screenplay
What was the plot of that script, roughly speaking?
It's loosely based on the Ruggiero/Wilson treatment.
I've never read it, but there's a brief description of the script in Some Kind of Hero.
On occasion I have been tempted to contact the authors to ask if they have a copy of that script or how they accessed it.
Interesting idea. They're both on Facebook if you want to give that a try.
Brosnan was bad at the one-liners as well.
Very much agreed. Sadly the American market still has such influence from a financial point of view. In any event, Dalton was their loss.
Yes, that would be nice as something different. I agree it will probably never see the light of day, mind. In fact, it might be a younger version of what Sir Ian McKellen played as Sherlock Holmes in the excellent Mr Holmes (2015).
I can't speak for either of the authors, but I'm guessing that even if they have a copy of the script, they would be reluctant to distribute it for fear of copyright infringement. If the script changed enough hands, it might even end up for sale on a few websites, which means that people would be making money off someone else's work. It's a sensitive area, and I wouldn't blame them if they turned you down.
I noticed a couple of days ago that Commander James Bond France (CJB) was tweeting Paul Haggis for a look at his original QOS script. No response yet (at least publicly).
Yes I have tried, I have absolutly no hope that it will lead to something, but like we say in France : "who dare nothing, have nothing" (even if I will end up with nothing for sure x) ).
We have an old saying in English too, "Nothing ventured, nothing gained."
Also, with seemingly everyone on the message boards speculating about the name of the next Bond film (Shatterhand, The Property of a Lady, etc.) ... how about Reunion with Death? It's a good title, and I'm a little surprised EON never made use of it.
Interesting script pages.
I wonder if they had any actors in mind to play Sir Henry,Connie etc...does any big DaltonBond fan know ?
I have no information about it, but it would be curious to know. I think there are no rumors, but I'm not sure.
It would be great if they recovered some material not used in the past, but I doubt it will happen. Certain titles, plots or characters would be great. I think they can still approximate slightly to discarded ideas.
Enjoy:
https://anchor.fm/the-james-bond-complex/episodes/Daltons-Fourth-Reunion-With-Death-e2oeh7
Daltons two films were far superior to the Brosnan era. Yes Goldeneye was solid and stylish (despite the awful score), but it’s a ‘middle of the road’/ average Bond film, well directed and with a tone suitable for the times. The 3 following films were (despite commercial success) a low point for Flemings creation.
Minus the awful cyborg/ robot ideas, I’d have loved a third Dalton film. Licence to Kill was the best Bond film of the 80’s by far.
I'm listening to this now. There's quite a few scenes that found their way into various following Bond films.