"SPECTRE" Appreciation Topic (...and why you think the 24th Bond film was the best spy film of 2015)

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  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    It's my number 2 favorite and will likely stay that way for a very long time.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Murdock wrote: »
    It's my number 2 favorite and will likely stay that way for a very long time.
    #2!!!!??? Behind Goldeneye? WOW!
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    Well, I love the flick @Gustav_Graves. It ranks 4th for me at the moment, but that will certainly change in time once the newness wears off. It'll probably go down to 6 or 7 by next year. The story was actually no better than that for DAD, but the execution was reasonably flawless IMHO. If it had had an Arnold score, it would likely stay #4 forever!

    I love you my man, but I'm calling you out on this one, @chrisisall. The gene therapy plot mess of DAD makes SP's story look Shakespearean in presentation. Honestly, it can't get lower and weaker than DAD. Massive sci-fi laser, check. A Korean man that somehow absorbs himself into the character of a white Englishman and gets surgery to resemble and act like one convincingly in no time flat, check. Tsunami wave kite surfing, check. Henchman with a face of literal diamonds, check. A final boss fight with the big bad in a mech body suit going all Robo-cop on Bond, check. It doesn't get weirder than this.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    It's my number 2 favorite and will likely stay that way for a very long time.
    #2!!!!??? Behind Goldeneye? WOW!

    It was pure fun and entertainment for me. And a big bucket of heavily buttered popcorn only increased the fun factor. I was having a pleasure overload. ;)
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I love you my man, but I'm calling you out on this one, @chrisisall. The gene therapy plot mess of DAD makes SP's story look Shakespearean in presentation. Honestly, it can't get lower and weaker than DAD. Massive sci-fi laser, check. A Korean man that somehow absorbs himself into the character of a white Englishman and gets surgery to resemble and act like one convincingly in no time flat, check. Tsunami wave kite surfing, check. Henchman with a face of literal diamonds, check. A final boss fight with the big bad in a mech body suit going all Robo-cop on Bond, check. It doesn't get weirder than this.
    Brady, dude, I said the EXECUTION of the story sucked. Nearly all of DAD would be palatable (or even excellent) given a director like Campbell who would veto the stupid s**t that Tamawhorie seemed to embrace. Even the invisible car, if done right, would have caused no fury amongst fans.
    At least, IMO.
    Oh, and the diamonds in the face thing was seriously THE stupidest thing in any spy film ever. A quick decision by the director could have prevented that bull***t.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I can't seem to find where I placed my last Bondathon ranking, but SP still stands at #5 or #6 for me. I'm in love with it.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I can't seem to find where I placed my last Bondathon ranking, but SP still stands at #5 or #6 for me. I'm in love with it.
    I'm beginning to like you.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Murdock wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    It's my number 2 favorite and will likely stay that way for a very long time.
    #2!!!!??? Behind Goldeneye? WOW!

    It was pure fun and entertainment for me. And a big bucket of heavily buttered popcorn only increased the fun factor. I was having a pleasure overload. ;)
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    Hah ha, I walked out of the theatre high as a kite, and popcorn tummy to boot. Peeps that didn't love this one...?
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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I can't seem to find where I placed my last Bondathon ranking, but SP still stands at #5 or #6 for me. I'm in love with it.
    I'm beginning to like you.

    What's taken you so long? ;)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I can't seem to find where I placed my last Bondathon ranking, but SP still stands at #5 or #6 for me. I'm in love with it.
    I'm beginning to like you.

    What's taken you so long? ;)

    My thoughts exactly. How you've yet to like a beautiful creature such as myself is beyond me!
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    Finally saw SPECTRE tonight. Great Bond! By far the best of the Craig Bonds & now one of my all time favorite Bond movies. I'll write a review later. For now, I'll just say that I'm certain there was a corporate media conspiracy, especially in the U.S. & maybe France, against this movie due to it's anit-surveillance, ant-NWO stance. I even saw hints at the suggestion that 9/11 was inside job. For me, none of the common criticisms of this movie hold water. This movie was far superior to SF & even felt like a real espionage movie. Logan/Mendez/Craig have redeemed themselves in my eyes for the boring whiny SF. More later.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I can't seem to find where I placed my last Bondathon ranking, but SP still stands at #5 or #6 for me. I'm in love with it.
    I'm beginning to like you.

    What's taken you so long? ;)

    My thoughts exactly. How you've yet to like a beautiful creature such as myself is beyond me!

    I'm just as bemused, friend. Hell, just minutes after first meeting you even I was questioning my own sexuality. Connery's animal magnetism takes its last breath in your midst, my good sir. ^:)^
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I can't seem to find where I placed my last Bondathon ranking, but SP still stands at #5 or #6 for me. I'm in love with it.
    I'm beginning to like you.

    What's taken you so long? ;)

    My thoughts exactly. How you've yet to like a beautiful creature such as myself is beyond me!

    I'm just as bemused, friend. Hell, just minutes after first meeting you even I was questioning my own sexuality. Connery's animal magnetism takes its last breath in your midst, my good sir. ^:)^

    These are the words of a god, ladies and gentlemen. Shall this be our Brady Appreciation Topic now?
  • To all: =D>
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    SPECTRE is gold. The best Bond of this Century, with QOS & CR just behind IMHO. As a Bond fan, I feel blessed.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited December 2015 Posts: 28,694
    Today I got my second viewing of SP, and boy did it do absolute wonders.

    My opinions on it feel almost day and night from what they were before. I swear, I had the stupidest grin on my face for at least 89% of the movie, the other 11% being made up of looks of intensity during big, dramatic moments.

    I watched SF early this morning in preparation for my second viewing of SP, figuring that they'd go well together when viewed close to each other, and I think I made the right choice. Popping in SF was a blast, and for some reason, I enjoyed myself more than I ever have before while watching it. This must've put me in just the right mood for more Bond today. By seeing the two films so close together the continuity found in SP carrying on from SF felt all the more important, substantial and weighty.

    What I loved the first time around-The PTS, train sequence, MI6 team, the motifs/themes and Dan-I loved a thousand times over again, while the things I was iffy on-Oberhauser/Blofeld, the merger/Nine Eyes, Madeleine and Bond's relationship and London finale-I really warmed to, some things more than I ever expected to.

    Looking back now, I think many of the disappointments I had about this film after first seeing it were born from not absorbing the subtleties of the film enough. This time I was able to really hone in on the stuff I felt I missed out on the first time, namely C and Blofeld's plot and motivations, and this time around I understood all of it much more clearly, which raised the tensions and stakes present in the film.

    So much of the good stuff in this film is subtle and non-verbal; the looks Bond gives other characters, the flashes of important motifs that linger only a while on the screen, the mannerisms the characters give off to each other as they interact; everything on screen is important and says something. A sharp, fiery gaze can mean just as much dramatically as a dialogue filled shout match between characters, and each cast member added so much depth to their characters by really playing up these subtle moments throughout.

    The only hints of sadness or regret I feel can be connected to the fact that I didn't ever want it to end. I love this era so much and because we only get a film every three years, it almost feels bittersweet when after the long waits and time we invest in discussing each film pre-release, it's over in what feels like seconds. Dan has my permission to be Bond forever, but of course, he's always had that.

    I'm going to do a full write up of my thoughts about the film as a whole when there is one thread just for SP reviews on the forum, but I just wanted to pop in and proudly share my defection. I'm now a full-on member of team Spectre! \m/
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited December 2015 Posts: 10,591
    Today I got my second viewing of SP, and boy did it do absolute wonders.

    My opinions on it feel almost day and night from what they were before. I swear, I had the stupidest grin on my face for at least 89% of the movie, the other 11% being made up of looks of intensity during big, dramatic moments.

    I watched SF early this morning in preparation for my second viewing of SP, figuring that they'd go well together when viewed close to each other, and I think I made the right choice. Popping in SF was a blast, and for some reason, I enjoyed myself more than I ever have before while watching it. This must've put me in just the right mood for more Bond today. By seeing the two films so close together the continuity found in SP carrying on from SF felt all the more important, substantial and weighty.

    What I loved the first time around-The PTS, train sequence, MI6 team, the motifs/themes and Dan-I loved a thousand times over again, while the things I was iffy on-Oberhauser/Blofeld, the merger/Nine Eyes, Madeleine and Bond's relationship and London finale-I really warmed to, some things more than I ever expected to.

    Looking back now, I think many of the disappointments I had about this film after first seeing it were born from not absorbing the subtleties of the film enough. This time I was able to really hone in on the stuff I felt I missed out on the first time, namely C and Blofeld's plot and motivations, and this time around I understood all of it much more clearly, which raised the tensions and stakes present in the film.

    So much of the good stuff in this film is subtle and non-verbal; the looks Bond gives other characters, the flashes of important motifs that linger only a while on the screen, the mannerisms the characters give off to each other as they interact; everything on screen is important and says something. A sharp, fiery gaze can mean just as much dramatically as a dialogue filled shout match between characters, and each cast member added so much depth to their characters by really playing up these subtle moments throughout.

    The only hints of sadness or regret I feel can be connected to the fact that I didn't ever want it to end. I love this era so much and because we only get a film every three years, it almost feels bittersweet when after the long waits and time we invest in discussing each film pre-release, it's over in what feels like seconds. Dan has my permission to be Bond forever, but of course, he's always had that.

    I'm going to do a full write up of my thoughts about the film as a whole when there is one thread just for SP reviews on the forum, but I just wanted to pop in and proudly share my defection. I'm now a full-on member of team Spectre! \m/

    Welcome to the dark side my friend :)>-
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    This can be the best place for SP reviews - BUT only if you don't want to whine on and moan as there's plenty of other space to do that in every other thread on this site.

    Those that seem to have the temerity to suggest that SP is great seem to be trampled and swamped by very loud repetitive 'I hate SP too' posters - it all becomes very tiring and boring when we're all supposed to be Bond fans.

    I'd even guess the DCiNB crew has set up camp here and are shit stirring
  • andmcit wrote: »
    This can be the best place for SP reviews - BUT only if you don't want to whine on and moan as there's plenty of other space to do that in every other thread on this site.

    Those that seem to have the temerity to suggest that SP is great seem to be trampled and swamped by very loud repetitive 'I hate SP too' posters - it all becomes very tiring and boring when we're all supposed to be Bond fans.

    I'd even guess the DCiNB crew has set up camp here and are shit stirring

    I don't know what you want this topic to be @Andmcit . What is your point really?
  • edited December 2015 Posts: 1,068
    The first two words of the thread title will do. I've spent the day tripping over all the barbs and brickbats in every thread here on mi6 and it feels like only a few actually like and appreciate SP
  • andmcit wrote: »
    The first two words of the thread title will do. I've spent the day tripping over all the barbs and brickbats in every thread here on mi6 and it feels like only a few actually like and appreciate SP

    Yeah well, I feel a bit sorry for them. Especially since most of these people also didn't like QOS and SF a lot. It sickens me sometimes what I read. And in all honesty, I sometimes start to think if they are still Bond fans...

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    andmcit wrote: »
    The first two words of the thread title will do. I've spent the day tripping over all the barbs and brickbats in every thread here on mi6 and it feels like only a few actually like and appreciate SP

    Yeah well, I feel a bit sorry for them. Especially since most of these people also didn't like QOS and SF a lot. It sickens me sometimes what I read. And in all honesty, I sometimes start to think if they are still Bond fans...

    Now, now. You know it's all just a matter of taste, and not everyone is going to like the Craig era and the path it's going down, as strange and difficult as that is to understand for those who are of our opinion. We've all got to pick our poisons, and these have been ours, but let's not trample those who choose to swig their own. ;)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Welcome aboard, @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7! Happy you're a fan. :D
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I'm now a full-on member of team Spectre! \m/
    Glad you know my joy, bro!
    :D
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Nice to be here, lads. Anybody know when I'll get my sweet silver octopus ring in the mail? You guys are still doing that, right?
  • What do we actually think of "SPECTRE" if we compare it with these blockbusters of 2015?

    - "Kingsman: The Secret Service"
    - "Avengers 2: Age Of Ultron"
    - "Furious 7"
    - "Minions"
    - "Jurassic World"
    - "The Man From U.N.C.L.E."
    - "The Hunger Games 4: Mockingjay Part 2"

    I think "SPECTRE" comes out as a much better film if you compare them with the ones I just mentioned....
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    What do we actually think of "SPECTRE" if we compare it with these blockbusters of 2015?

    - "Kingsman: The Secret Service"
    - "Avengers 2: Age Of Ultron"
    - "Furious 7"
    - "Minions"
    - "Jurassic World"
    - "The Man From U.N.C.L.E."
    - "The Hunger Games 4: Mockingjay Part 2"

    I think "SPECTRE" comes out as a much better film if you compare them with the ones I just mentioned....
    Even compared to Mad Max Fury Road in MY opinion it comes out ahead. Only the new Star Wars film might change that.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Spectre is on a completely separate level IMO, though Age of Ultron and Mockingjay Part 2 are the standouts of that list.
  • jake24 wrote: »
    Spectre is on a completely separate level IMO, though Age of Ultron and Mockingjay Part 2 are the standouts of that list.

    I found "Age Of Ultron" a dull Michael Bay-esque, overcrowded popcorn flick, of which the popcorn was burnt.

    With that same theme I found "Ex-Machina" the true stand-out, and unreservedly it flopped. "SPECTRE" for me however works much better than "Avengers 2", simply because it isn't such a CGI special Effects porn movie. "SPECTRE" is much more delicate when compared to that pompous trainwreck that can't become a financial trainwreck because it uses the Marvel-tag.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Spectre is on a completely separate level IMO, though Age of Ultron and Mockingjay Part 2 are the standouts of that list.

    I found "Age Of Ultron" a dull Michael Bay-esque, overcrowded popcorn flick, of which the popcorn was burnt.

    With that same theme I found "Ex-Machina" the true stand-out, and unreservedly it flopped. "SPECTRE" for me however works much better than "Avengers 2", simply because it isn't such a CGI special Effects porn movie. "SPECTRE" is much more delicate when compared to that pompous trainwreck that can't become a financial trainwreck because it uses the Marvel-tag.
    I'll admit to having never seen Ex-Machina. AoU worked well as a superhero film for me, though it didn't quite live up to its predecessor. Spectre is my favorite film of 2015, and I say that with confidence even prior to seeing The Force Awakens and others I'm looking forward to.
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