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So let's take it out on the man trying to keep you alive?
Melina Havelock saw her parents murdered in front of her and Camille the same and they are far more effective and better written characters.
She doesn't know that until they make it to Cuba. She's known Bond for less than what....an hour? She knows nothing of him really, including his motives. She was along for the ride until they go to Cuba. There, I don't think she was overly critical of Bond after the beach scene, which in itself was very fitting I think even if it was slightly cheesy.
Once she realised that was Bond's purpose she was quite resourceful and became focused on her own mission.
Different strokes for different folks I guess but I always found Natalya to be one of the most believable and strongly characterised Bond girls.
You extended my thoughts quite well, Strog. Looking at GE as a whole, there are overtones of female characters putting Bond in his place everywhere from M and Moneypenny to Natalya, reflective of the era. Not saying they needed to stay rooted in the 1960s, but they didn't need to do a complete turn in the opposite direction either to move into the next era either or enhance enjoyment of it.
I say all this, but keep in mind that (a) it does not follow on from the above that I think Natalya is in the end a weak character hiding behind her bossiness, merely that she is part of a film that betrays part of its aims in drawing attention to them, and also that (b) this is all nitpicks; on the whole I do enjoy GE (somewhere around mid-pack for me), and I think that it is in some ways a monument in the series. If Bond ended tomorrow, GE -- along with GF and MR -- would in my guess be the last films to recede from the popular memory.
Vesper was far more believable in the way she stood up to Bond intellectually and intelligently. It is some way down to the more natural flowing dialogue but it also comes across as a much more convincing and confident delivery. It is something about the confidence of someone who doesn't need approval or encouragement all the time for her tough behavior, which I, somewhat oddly, get the sense that Isabella seeks during her portrayal.
The Bond girl of B25, according to my inside source:
It's a small but VERY vocal minority on these boards that hate on Kara so it kind of puts it out of proportion.
She's an innocent Cellist, caught up in a world of espionage.
Her character isn't the brightest bulb in the box but she has guts and spirit, which is what makes her so endearing.
One of the best Bond girls.
Absolutely!
Agreed.
Agreed! Love her!
"Better make that three." Her naivety is part of her appeal, it's understandable how Bond would want to protect her.
Adding something like this, for example :
Found that today on Cracked.
Hadn't checked the thread in some time so I know this is old. Why blindfold him to take him back to the building he works at? It's not like he didn't already know the path there from where they abducted him.
A good bad guy protocol.
Oh dear. There's always one.
So they can do that but they can't take his PPK away from him?
I guess Blofeld wanted him to keep it for the bit where the targets pop up with all the people from Bond's past? More likely just an oversight though.
I think @chrisisall was taking the thread title literally? As in direst situation Bond has been in. Losing his wife and having his skull drilled are both very painful. Or maybe he meant the Bond theme blaring over the end credits which was a weird choice.
Yeah that's the only bit of the film I really don't like. Seems to drag on and those bits are pretty cringe worthy ("call me Hilly"). But of course the moment Bond is captured the film just takes things to another level and you forget all about the Hilary Bray stuff straight away. Bond's whole escape right through to his panic at trying to lose the guards in the village is the tensest stuff of the series imo. So exciting and gripping and so so tense. Feels like a proper spy film, it's the only time I've been genuinely worried for Bond when he's close to getting caught. Real edge of your seat stuff. Only the OP train/circus sequence comes close in terms of tension imo.
The only bit of that dinner scene I really don't like is the line: "what does a gyna...genealogist do?"
It's juvenile and quite vulgar.