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Excellent points especially regarding the plane sequence.
I think that's one of the big reasons that sequence fails - Bond simply trusts to blind luck that if he crashes his plane into the cars all the bad guys will die and Madeline and he will walk away unscathed. Yes Bond's a gambler but only when the odds are right. His thought process in going into this sequence is bizarre and halfway through he simply becomes a passenger which is why it ends up being dull.
Yes it's no more outrageous than the MR PTS or the GE tank chase but in both those situations Bond is in control of his actions rather than putting it in the lap of the gods and crossing his fingers.
It's not like films where he simply takes a nearby vehicle that's available. A plane is a completely different matter.
You see it briefly on his approach. Although that's a small issue on the whole for me.
Maybe a quick shot of him running onto the runway and nicking it would've been better but as they showed us the airport and given it would take Hinx 15-20 mins to drive down the mountain road, a distance which would take Bond about 2 mins to cover in the plane, I give him a conservative 10 mins to get to the airstrip and commandeer a plane. Not a great deal of suspension of disbelief needed.
SP has a lot of flaws but if you start calling it out for this non issue then no film is safe.
Congratulations. You stumbled over just about the only thing in the movie that makes some sense.
Has Bond done such a thing before? Chasing down a car with an airplane to rescue the Bond Girl? Seems like a genuinely new approach some viewers say they're looking for. Minus anything OO7 happened to have done in a previous film, I mean, like eyeballing the opposite transport then smiling. And a viewer doesn't have to like its execution, that's a given.
Also, Moore describing Scaramanga's third nipple during the briefing. He sounds like he just drank a bunch of milk.
On top of the fact that he was blindfolded to begin with and wouldn't have even seen the pictures.
What a complete shambles.
There is, somewhere.
They blindfolded him to not allow him to see where he was going, not for walking through MI6. How this keeps coming up is boggling to me.
Like in SF, where some people actually thought that Bond meant the scotch comment about Severine. Thought does actually go into these movies.
I remember in the script he was drawn to MI6 through a city wide blackout. The only light left on was coming from Dench's M's office in the old building so he sprinted over there. I don't know why they changed it (maybe Craig's injury? Or maybe they couldn't stretch the budget after how much they'd already spent) but I do think that would have been cooler.
Blofeld clearly wanted it to be a surprise, so why wouldn't Bond be blindfolded on his way to MI6, in addition to how it already incapacitates his senses? There are some reasonable criticisms about SP out there, but others like the above are solved with just a little logical thought. How people make a big deal out of such a simple thing is hilarious, and is very much in tune with the overly dramatic outrage we see post-SP.
Whatever, @bondjames. I'm not going to have this discussion for the 200th time because I don't enjoy repeating myself like some others. I see a lack of thought going on at times, and point it out without calling people idiots or saying they don't "get it." If it's apparently a fact that Mendes is a hack who cobbled together a "travesty" of a Bond film, I think the overly dramatic treating a movie like a heart attack shouldn't be dealt with too lightly either if they want to swap opinion and discourse with theater.
It may be annoying for some to read responses that take them to task for being melodramatic, but it's also annoying to read people who treat a movie like a creepy uncle that touched them in the broom closet. I'm sorry that SP has caused such severe and long-lasting psychological trauma for folks, but I'll share no sympathy in such a hilariously over blown reaction that makes EON out to be hacks, Mendes the worst director in history and Daniel a fallen Bond legend. It's time to grow up, seriously.
Or maybe it's just time to realize that SP is a terrible flawed and boring movie, which tries to make up for it with melodramatic pretensions. Obviously some people fall for that soap opera approach but they shouldn't be too proud of it.
Anyway I'm going to try and make it my last word on dislike of SPECTRE I've devoted enough time to it, it's time I walked away.
You can hold me to this as well if you like.
Chill out. It's a movie.
Just because you see something doesn't mean it's obvious. There are many things we all individually see in Bond films that others don't. That doesn't make those who don't see what we see simpletons. On the contrary. It just means they have a different point of view.
If there are enough intelligent people commenting on something (and I tend to believe nearly all members on this forum are intelligent and well versed enough on all things Bond), that means the film makers could have done a better job of it, or the actors could have done a better job. That's all. At the end of the day it's the overall impression a film leaves that will be remembered and not specific scenes.
With respect to the issue in question: I don't think it's stupid for members to question why Bond was blindfolded when being taken back to his own office in a city he is quite familiar with. The truck that he was being transported in does not have any windows in the cabin area (including towards the drivers section) and the rear windows are blocked out too. Is there a plausible explanation for why he was blindfolded? Yes and you've provided it, but not an obvious one (unless someone has read the leaked script). Certainly not enough to warrant negative reprisals.
No, for me, it was that he was led there by two very inept henchmen who didn't even disarm him before blackbagging him in the back of the van. Having Bond pull out his PPK to take down a helicopter at the end just capped it all off for me. If a lot of thought went into this sequence then it went into all the wrong places.
"You're so good, when you're bad."
But if we aren't talking about one single, disposable moment and looking at the broader picture it's the plot of Spectre I'm afraid.
"Take me on da wheel ?",with that stupid goofy grin on her chops.
And Bond : "Don't think,just let it happen." - time to throw up everywhere,its embarrassing.
I always feel the urge to punch someone when that happens.