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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Instantly better than Star Wars.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    @mattjoes that was fun, though Bond missed the Star Destroyer that was on his tail...

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  • mattjoesmattjoes Pay more attention to your chef
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    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    @mattjoes that was fun, though Bond missed the Star Destroyer that was on his tail...

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    Oh, very nice. Bond has his work cut out for him.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Okay at first I thought “ha that’s cute” and then halfway I’m howling!
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    @mattjoes that was fun, though Bond missed the Star Destroyer that was on his tail...

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    Brilliant! I'm laughing a lot here.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Love how the sheriff elbows Chewie.
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Star Wars: The Phantom Menace - 1950's Super Panavision 70

    This is fantastic.
    Yeah that was pretty amazing. Interested in seeing them tackle Doctor Who.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited May 15 Posts: 25,410
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    @mattjoes that was fun, though Bond missed the Star Destroyer that was on his tail...

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    Brilliant! I'm laughing a lot here.

    Bond beat Han's time doing the kessle run 😂
    QBranch wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Love how the sheriff elbows Chewie.
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Star Wars: The Phantom Menace - 1950's Super Panavision 70

    This is fantastic.
    Yeah that was pretty amazing. Interested in seeing them tackle Doctor Who.

    I watched a few of them they do repeat elements though they are very clever. A Doctor Who one would be great.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    I watched a few of them they do repeat elements though they are very clever. A Doctor Who one would be great.
    I did end up finding a Doctor Who version but it was nowhere as good as the Star Wars videos. It struck me as made by someone who had never seen an episode.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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  • mattjoesmattjoes Pay more attention to your chef
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    I'm dead =))
    NAH-AH
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited June 5 Posts: 25,410
    The Acolyte episode 1, this one note borefest is a good cure for insomnia.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Oh really? I must say I'm not massively interested to see Jedi: they are the most boring characters in the SW world.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    mtm wrote: »
    Oh really? I must say I'm not massively interested to see Jedi: they are the most boring characters in the SW world.

    They were pretty much ruined the moment Lucas decided that Luke should act like a stoic sage in RETURN OF THE JEDI and he became incredibly boring to watch. It’s incredible how that approach has persisted in spite of the fact that we had both Obi-Wan and Yoda exhibiting strong personalities and charisma.

    I didn’t watch AHSOKA, but I saw they did the same thing with the title character often just speaking in a calm and understated fashion.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    The prequels, Clone Wars, EU novels, comics and video games make the Jedi really cool in my opinion. I would never describe the Jedi as boring.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited June 5 Posts: 1,673
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The prequels, Clone Wars, EU novels, comics and video games make the Jedi really cool in my opinion. I would never describe the Jedi as boring.

    I was interested in a more LOTR epic about the ancient times of the jedi and sith or whatever (not too knowledgable about old SW lore), but this has been repeatedly described as a "soap opera" and not in the "space opera" way that the originals enjoyed.

    Like many medieval shows and movies, I take issue with how clean and organized everything seems. A little too up its own ass or trying too hard. I want to watch something confidently relaxed. From what I've seen of some of Acolyte, they're even subbing in digital people in the fights in some scenes. Just make it real, please. Make a cool fight with laser swords between two people, how damn hard can that be?
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited June 5 Posts: 25,410
    The Acolyte episode 2 almost feels like a cut and paste of the first episode. I was looking forward to this show because of the time period in which it is set, unless there is a drastic change of pace and direction in episode 3 I can't see this improving.

    The issues are plenty and start with the writing and generic dialogue, the script keeps contradicting itself it feels like a first draft, the writing is amateur and reminds me of bad 90's Sci Fi TV.

    The show cost according to reports £160 million so there are some good visual shots alas the direction is not dynamic at all.

    The choreography for the hand to hand combat scenes is ok though feels out of place in Star Wars.

    I was not a fan of Obi Wan... TV show though at least it got an emotional reaction out of me and had the odd exciting moment.

    Ahsoka is a much better show than The Acolyte so far, the bar is not very high admittedly.
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The prequels, Clone Wars, EU novels, comics and video games make the Jedi really cool in my opinion. I would never describe the Jedi as boring.

    Agreed.
  • ShakenNotStirredShakenNotStirred
    edited June 5 Posts: 1,399
    I've only seen Episode 1 of The Acolyte, it's just okay. Gotta say I'm starting to miss an actual Star Wars Film. Really enjoyed Andor and Mandalorian Season 1, but all else hasn't been great in terms of live action shows.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited June 5 Posts: 4,693
    ShakenNotStirred wrote: »
    I've only seen Episode 1 of The Acolyte, it's just okay. Gotta say I'm starting to miss an actual Star Wars Film. Really enjoyed Andor and Mandalorian Season 1, but all else hasn't been great in terms of live action shows.

    I just started watching The Mandalorian, preparing for the movie. I'm happy that Lucasfilm slowed down on Star Wars content, unlike Marvel. I think there will be big announcements at D23 in August, in terms of movies. I miss them as well.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/marvel-eyes-shawn-levy-to-direct-next-avengers-movie-1235913871/

    I thought he was being looked at for a Star Wars movie after D & W and the final season of Stranger Things. Oh well, just Lucasfilm being Lucasfilm, I guess.

    I also wonder if Rian Johnson will be back for a SW movie after Knives Out 3. At least one.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Was surprised to enjoy THE ACOLYTE as much as I did. Maybe it helps that unlike all the other shows that this is essentially an entirely new cast of characters with no baggage or tie ins to other Star Wars stories.

    I so far like the characters of Osha and Master Sol.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
    edited June 7 Posts: 1,127
    Just wanted to put this here:
    Star Wars: Force Combat: a Fangame by LastJawa.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Was surprised to enjoy THE ACOLYTE as much as I did. Maybe it helps that unlike all the other shows that this is essentially an entirely new cast of characters with no baggage or tie ins to other Star Wars stories.

    I so far like the characters of Osha and Master Sol.

    The script is one of the worst I have seen it is parody without the comedy. Sol is by far the best character, Lee Jung-jae is good despite terrible writing.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    While I haven't seen it yet, I will defend it as it does take time for a show to grow. In general.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited June 8 Posts: 25,410
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    While I haven't seen it yet, I will defend it as it does take time for a show to grow. In general.

    The writing is bad constantly contradicting itself, how this was passed as acceptable is beyond me.

    I have watched both episodes more than once and it gets worse, this show cost 180 million with zero quality control.

    If some like it great, to me its just a continuation of mediocrity in SW.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited June 9 Posts: 4,693
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    While I haven't seen it yet, I will defend it as it does take time for a show to grow. In general.

    The writing is bad constantly contradicting itself, how this was passed as acceptable is beyond me.

    I have watched both episodes more than once and it gets worse, this show cost 180 million with zero quality control.

    If some like it great, to me its just a continuation of mediocrity in SW.

    OK, I'm not going to debate you. But you're right about writing, that honestly can make or break something for me. Bond included. Star Wars has ALWAYS had a mixed bag with writing.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    While I haven't seen it yet, I will defend it as it does take time for a show to grow. In general.

    The writing is bad constantly contradicting itself, how this was passed as acceptable is beyond me.

    I have watched both episodes more than once and it gets worse, this show cost 180 million with zero quality control.

    If some like it great, to me its just a continuation of mediocrity in SW.

    OK, I'm not going to debate you. But you're right about writing, that honestly can make or break something for me. Bond included. Star Wars has ALWAYS had a mixed bag with writing.

    Alas writing in all my favorite films and series has not been great for some time, recently I spend more time watching classic movies.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    While I haven't seen it yet, I will defend it as it does take time for a show to grow. In general.

    The writing is bad constantly contradicting itself, how this was passed as acceptable is beyond me.

    I have watched both episodes more than once and it gets worse, this show cost 180 million with zero quality control.

    If some like it great, to me its just a continuation of mediocrity in SW.

    OK, I'm not going to debate you. But you're right about writing, that honestly can make or break something for me. Bond included. Star Wars has ALWAYS had a mixed bag with writing.

    Alas writing in all my favorite films and series has not been great for some time, recently I spend more time watching classic movies.

    Same here!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    I have loved SW for 40+ years, I want it to be good or great, when SW falls way below the standards it should have I will call it out. Mando first 2 seasons were great, Andor great, The Acolyte ugh!

    I am listening to the Jaws soundtrack to remind me what greatness is.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    My only quibble writing wise was why Osha ran away from the wreckage, but that may be something addressed later on as something related to her trauma.

    Otherwise, I don’t understand how the writing is supposedly “bad”. But you give ENTERPRISE a pass on your rewatch of S1 episodes some time ago, so I don’t know what to make of your assesssment of what makes it “bad”.

    That said, I give the two episodes 3.5 out of 5. Just fairly above average but nothing to write home about.
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