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  • BonSimonLeBon_1BonSimonLeBon_1
    Posts: 2,436
    Walecs wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    I would be super surprised if Bond 25 dealt with cloning. My understanding of a genetic warfare threat would be something like an airborne virus or something along those lines rather than cloning.

    The two additional elements that prompted the clone theory were the casting of the young actress who looks like Lea and the fact that she’s wearing contemporary clothing during the frozen lake sequence which was initially thought to be a flashback.

    So what she's wearing cannot have been worn 20 odd years ago?

    But why oh why would the villain clone Madeleine, of all people?

    Someone here identified it as a coat that is being sold in stores today.
    Her father was involved with SPECTRE ; she may have been a convenient source of DNA for experiments and testing.
    I don't think they would care that much. Actors wear modern clothes even in period dramas sometimes.

    This particular coat is currently quite popular with young people - and so would be quite jarring if meant to be from the past.
  • 2Wint2Kidd2Wint2Kidd
    Posts: 698
    I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before, does anyone know what actors are going to be filming in Matera?

    Rami should almost certainly be going as it seems he hasn't done any work on location yet that we know of.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    talos7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    I would be super surprised if Bond 25 dealt with cloning. My understanding of a genetic warfare threat would be something like an airborne virus or something along those lines rather than cloning.

    The two additional elements that prompted the clone theory were the casting of the young actress who looks like Lea and the fact that she’s wearing contemporary clothing during the frozen lake sequence which was initially to be a flashback.

    Actually false...

    The Bond 25 interns updated the cast and crew list on IMDB. A full list was released to reporters when Prince Charles visited..

    They actually have

    “Young madeleine” and “Young Madeline Stunt Double”, listed in the cast list.


    Yeah anyone can edit the site but the full list includes “key grip”,

    “Hairdresser”, “War Costume Advisor”, “Prosthetics artist”.

    Who would randomly add a key grip?

    Safe to say young Madeleine does appear in some way in the film and the young girl is the spitting image of her.

  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    I would be super surprised if Bond 25 dealt with cloning. My understanding of a genetic warfare threat would be something like an airborne virus or something along those lines rather than cloning.

    The two additional elements that prompted the clone theory were the casting of the young actress who looks like Lea and the fact that she’s wearing contemporary clothing during the frozen lake sequence which was initially thought to be a flashback.

    My guess is that this girl has nothing to do about cloning or Madeleine at all. I'm more likely to believe she's in some way connected to the kidnapped scientist. What better way to make a scientist agree to assist in developing a dangerous technology than holding his daughter hostage, for example.


    There’s a “young Madeline stunt double” on IMDB. A long with the full cast and crew list..

    Including a prosthetics artist, war costume advisor. This was all set up by the production team of interns.

    Not sure why people are in denial when the information is online.

    Also a casting call was released way back in december asking for a young blonde actress to portray Lea in a scene. They also said she had to be a decent swimmer.

    Too much evidence to not be true.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,162
    matt_u wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Where is this ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD rumor coming from?


    I was under the impression it was going to be the astonishingly bad title
    GENOME WOMAN or whatever.

    It is not a rumor, just speculation or fan wishes that every x months are brought back to the boards. The astonishingly bad title, unfortunately, seems more plausible, since at least comes from a kind of insider.

    Thanks. I'm hoping the GENOME title is simply a poor translation and is actually something cool.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited August 2019 Posts: 8,207
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    I would be super surprised if Bond 25 dealt with cloning. My understanding of a genetic warfare threat would be something like an airborne virus or something along those lines rather than cloning.

    The two additional elements that prompted the clone theory were the casting of the young actress who looks like Lea and the fact that she’s wearing contemporary clothing during the frozen lake sequence which was initially to be a flashback.

    Actually false...

    The Bond 25 interns updated the cast and crew list on IMDB. A full list was released to reporters when Prince Charles visited..

    They actually have

    “Young madeleine” and “Young Madeline Stunt Double”, listed in the cast list.


    Yeah anyone can edit the site but the full list includes “key grip”,

    “Hairdresser”, “War Costume Advisor”, “Prosthetics artist”.

    Who would randomly add a key grip?

    Safe to say young Madeleine does appear in some way in the film and the young girl is the spitting image of her.

    So, what’s false?
    Yes, she appears, possibly in flashback or a clone or something yet to be mentioned.

    She’s wearing the contemporary jacket in this video.
    https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a26987382/james-bond-25-daniel-craig-filming-villain/
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    I've seen the argument for the girl wearing a currently sold jacket as evidence that the scene is not a flashback. It's entirely possible for the costume team to have selected the jacket based on it's distinct 90s/early 2000s look.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,207
    jake24 wrote: »
    I've seen the argument for the girl wearing a currently sold jacket as evidence that the scene is not a flashback. It's entirely possible for the costume team to have selected the jacket based on it's distinct 90s/early 2000s look.

    Absolutely a possibility....

  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    edited August 2019 Posts: 1,003
    talos7 wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    I would be super surprised if Bond 25 dealt with cloning. My understanding of a genetic warfare threat would be something like an airborne virus or something along those lines rather than cloning.

    The two additional elements that prompted the clone theory were the casting of the young actress who looks like Lea and the fact that she’s wearing contemporary clothing during the frozen lake sequence which was initially to be a flashback.

    Actually false...

    The Bond 25 interns updated the cast and crew list on IMDB. A full list was released to reporters when Prince Charles visited..

    They actually have

    “Young madeleine” and “Young Madeline Stunt Double”, listed in the cast list.


    Yeah anyone can edit the site but the full list includes “key grip”,

    “Hairdresser”, “War Costume Advisor”, “Prosthetics artist”.

    Who would randomly add a key grip?

    Safe to say young Madeleine does appear in some way in the film and the young girl is the spitting image of her.

    So, what’s false?
    Yes, she appears, possibly in flashback or a clone or something yet to be mentioned.

    She’s wearing the contemporary jacket in this video.
    https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a26987382/james-bond-25-daniel-craig-filming-villain/


    The speculation part is false.

    It’s one of the only things confirmed about the movie. Considering they cast a young Madeleine and a stunt double for her. Also the underwater scenes were filmed at pinewood involving the stunt double.

    The young blonde was on location in Norway.

    Stunt double posted on her instagram story her at pinewood in a dive suit..

    Just detective work.

    Iv heard people say it’s a popular jacket but definitely not in America.

    The minute you see it, it screams 90s.

    Now what makes everyone think it’s a clone scene, is the fact the cars on set are all brand new cars, not old school.

    Rami also said he shot scenes in norway but the only set photos are of his double.

    So this is my guess...


    1) Madeline was cloned. The younger her has something Malek needs..

    2) Car chase leaves the cottage and enters the bridge.

    3) Through the woods and to the castle.

    So maybe it’s more towards the end of the film?

    Just fun speculation based on what we know and set photos.

  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited August 2019 Posts: 8,207
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    I would be super surprised if Bond 25 dealt with cloning. My understanding of a genetic warfare threat would be something like an airborne virus or something along those lines rather than cloning.

    The two additional elements that prompted the clone theory were the casting of the young actress who looks like Lea and the fact that she’s wearing contemporary clothing during the frozen lake sequence which was initially to be a flashback.

    Actually false...

    The Bond 25 interns updated the cast and crew list on IMDB. A full list was released to reporters when Prince Charles visited..

    They actually have

    “Young madeleine” and “Young Madeline Stunt Double”, listed in the cast list.


    Yeah anyone can edit the site but the full list includes “key grip”,

    “Hairdresser”, “War Costume Advisor”, “Prosthetics artist”.

    Who would randomly add a key grip?

    Safe to say young Madeleine does appear in some way in the film and the young girl is the spitting image of her.

    So, what’s false?
    Yes, she appears, possibly in flashback or a clone or something yet to be mentioned.

    She’s wearing the contemporary jacket in this video.
    https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a26987382/james-bond-25-daniel-craig-filming-villain/


    The speculation part is false.

    It’s one of the only things confirmed about the movie. Considering they cast a young Madeleine and a stunt double for her. Also the underwater scenes were filmed at pinewood involving the stunt double.

    The young blonde was on location in Norway.

    Stunt double posted on her instagram story her at pinewood in a dive suit..

    Just detective work.

    Iv heard people say it’s a popular jacket but definitely not in America.

    The minute you see it, it screams 90s.

    Now what makes everyone think it’s a clone scene, is the fact the cars on set are all brand new cars, not old school.

    Rami also said he shot scenes in norway but the only set photos are of his double.

    So this is my guess...


    1) Madeline was cloned. The younger her has something Malek needs..

    2) Car chase leaves the cottage and enters the bridge.

    3) Through the woods and to the castle.

    So maybe it’s more towards the end of the film?

    Just fun speculation based on what we know and set photos.

    Again, what is false?
    There is an actress who was cast to resemble a young Lea.
    Can you absolutely tell me the context of the role? No you cannot.

    And as far as the possibility of a clone ,
    I can absolutely prove that I was the first one on this board to propose it.


  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    Isn't it rich?
    Aren't they a pair?
    Bond standing his ground
    Blofeld making his entrance with his usual flair.

    EON send in the clones.
    There ought to be clones.

    Don't bother, they're here ...


  • BonSimonLeBon_1BonSimonLeBon_1
    Posts: 2,436
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    I would be super surprised if Bond 25 dealt with cloning. My understanding of a genetic warfare threat would be something like an airborne virus or something along those lines rather than cloning.

    The two additional elements that prompted the clone theory were the casting of the young actress who looks like Lea and the fact that she’s wearing contemporary clothing during the frozen lake sequence which was initially to be a flashback.

    Actually false...

    The Bond 25 interns updated the cast and crew list on IMDB. A full list was released to reporters when Prince Charles visited..

    They actually have

    “Young madeleine” and “Young Madeline Stunt Double”, listed in the cast list.


    Yeah anyone can edit the site but the full list includes “key grip”,

    “Hairdresser”, “War Costume Advisor”, “Prosthetics artist”.

    Who would randomly add a key grip?

    Safe to say young Madeleine does appear in some way in the film and the young girl is the spitting image of her.

    So, what’s false?
    Yes, she appears, possibly in flashback or a clone or something yet to be mentioned.

    She’s wearing the contemporary jacket in this video.
    https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a26987382/james-bond-25-daniel-craig-filming-villain/


    The speculation part is false.

    It’s one of the only things confirmed about the movie. Considering they cast a young Madeleine and a stunt double for her. Also the underwater scenes were filmed at pinewood involving the stunt double.

    The young blonde was on location in Norway.

    Stunt double posted on her instagram story her at pinewood in a dive suit..

    Just detective work.

    Iv heard people say it’s a popular jacket but definitely not in America.

    The minute you see it, it screams 90s.

    Now what makes everyone think it’s a clone scene, is the fact the cars on set are all brand new cars, not old school.

    Rami also said he shot scenes in norway but the only set photos are of his double.

    So this is my guess...


    1) Madeline was cloned. The younger her has something Malek needs..

    2) Car chase leaves the cottage and enters the bridge.

    3) Through the woods and to the castle.

    So maybe it’s more towards the end of the film?

    Just fun speculation based on what we know and set photos.

    90s retro fasion is actually very contemporary. A lot of football kits are currently riffing on earlier 90s kits. Germany and Spain's kits at the last World Cup are testament to this.
  • NickThunderballsNickThunderballs Australia
    edited August 2019 Posts: 133
    In response to perrycurties insta photography page, I’m guessing that the green screen room is being used for the shooting of a title poster. The post just before the video reads “who we shooting today?” so presumably Craig is there modelling for a poster...
  • BounineBounine
    Posts: 2,599
    I’m digging Iggy Pop’s ‘James Bond’ song. Love the trumpet solo! The man’s still got it.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,116
    talos7 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    I would be super surprised if Bond 25 dealt with cloning. My understanding of a genetic warfare threat would be something like an airborne virus or something along those lines rather than cloning.

    The two additional elements that prompted the clone theory were the casting of the young actress who looks like Lea and the fact that she’s wearing contemporary clothing during the frozen lake sequence which was initially thought to be a flashback.

    So what she's wearing cannot have been worn 20 odd years ago?

    But why oh why would the villain clone Madeleine, of all people?

    Someone here identified it as a coat that is being sold in stores today.
    Her father was involved with SPECTRE ; she may have been a convenient source of DNA for experiments and testing.

    That's nitpicking surely: maybe they just thought the coat looked good and like something that could have been worn 20 years ago. Even if beyond the shadow of a doubt the coat could not under any circumstances exist then...it wouldn't be the first time a movie is anachronistic.

    As for cloning, it would be easier to clone some African refugee or some prostitute from the Eastern block who entered the country illegally.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
    edited August 2019 Posts: 2,541
    NickThunderballs wrote: »
    In response to perrycurties insta photography page, I’m guessing that the green screen room is being used for the shooting of a title poster. The post just before the video reads “who we shooting today?” so presumably Craig is there modelling for a poster...

    I think you are right, sir.

    Check his other works in cinema and tv: https://www.perrycurties.com/galleries/film-tv-advertising
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    edited August 2019 Posts: 3,497
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    I would be super surprised if Bond 25 dealt with cloning. My understanding of a genetic warfare threat would be something like an airborne virus or something along those lines rather than cloning.

    The two additional elements that prompted the clone theory were the casting of the young actress who looks like Lea and the fact that she’s wearing contemporary clothing during the frozen lake sequence which was initially to be a flashback.

    Actually false...

    The Bond 25 interns updated the cast and crew list on IMDB. A full list was released to reporters when Prince Charles visited..

    They actually have

    “Young madeleine” and “Young Madeline Stunt Double”, listed in the cast list.


    Yeah anyone can edit the site but the full list includes “key grip”,

    “Hairdresser”, “War Costume Advisor”, “Prosthetics artist”.

    Who would randomly add a key grip?

    Safe to say young Madeleine does appear in some way in the film and the young girl is the spitting image of her.

    So, what’s false?
    Yes, she appears, possibly in flashback or a clone or something yet to be mentioned.

    She’s wearing the contemporary jacket in this video.
    https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a26987382/james-bond-25-daniel-craig-filming-villain/


    The speculation part is false.

    It’s one of the only things confirmed about the movie. Considering they cast a young Madeleine and a stunt double for her. Also the underwater scenes were filmed at pinewood involving the stunt double.

    The young blonde was on location in Norway.

    Stunt double posted on her instagram story her at pinewood in a dive suit..

    Just detective work.

    Iv heard people say it’s a popular jacket but definitely not in America.

    The minute you see it, it screams 90s.

    Now what makes everyone think it’s a clone scene, is the fact the cars on set are all brand new cars, not old school.

    Rami also said he shot scenes in norway but the only set photos are of his double.

    So this is my guess...


    1) Madeline was cloned. The younger her has something Malek needs..

    2) Car chase leaves the cottage and enters the bridge.

    3) Through the woods and to the castle.

    So maybe it’s more towards the end of the film?

    Just fun speculation based on what we know and set photos.

    Again I ask thee: is cloning "dangerous technology that the world has never seen"?


  • ZekidkZekidk
    Posts: 3,276
    2Wint2Kidd wrote: »
    Rami should almost certainly be going as it seems he hasn't done any work on location yet that we know of.
    He is done shooting and is back in NY doing Mr. Robot.

  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    Zekidk wrote: »
    2Wint2Kidd wrote: »
    Rami should almost certainly be going as it seems he hasn't done any work on location yet that we know of.
    He is done shooting and is back in NY doing Mr. Robot.

    Where did you get the info that he's "done shooting"?
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,185
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Bond 25 filming will take place at Dalí Universe - Dalí a Matera on August 21, August 29 and September 17, 2019.


    Thanks for this post @Red_Snow , if you or anyone has specific shooting locations and dates in and around Matera, i would deeply appreciate it, as i am planing to stay there a week in mid september. Depending on shooting dates i will plan my trip accordingly.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    edited August 2019 Posts: 3,497
    00Agent wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Bond 25 filming will take place at Dalí Universe - Dalí a Matera on August 21, August 29 and September 17, 2019.


    Thanks for this post @Red_Snow , if you or anyone has specific shooting locations and dates in and around Matera, i would deeply appreciate it, as i am planing to stay there a week in mid september. Depending on shooting dates i will plan my trip accordingly.

    Such a wonderful location. ^:)^

    The perfect lair for a villain, one could say. \m/
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,185
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Bond 25 filming will take place at Dalí Universe - Dalí a Matera on August 21, August 29 and September 17, 2019.


    Thanks for this post @Red_Snow , if you or anyone has specific shooting locations and dates in and around Matera, i would deeply appreciate it, as i am planing to stay there a week in mid september. Depending on shooting dates i will plan my trip accordingly.

    Such a wonderful location. ^:)^

    The perfect lair for a villain, one could say. \m/

    It's a beautiful location, that's a big plus, so i can go there just for holiday. But it's the last chance i'll ever get to see Dan in action and I would deeply regret it, if i didn't give it a shot.

    I've been to many of Craigs locations already, but only after the shooting. This would be the first time i see the production live.
  • KOPKOP
    Posts: 18
    JamesCraig wrote: »

    Again I ask thee: is cloning "dangerous technology that the world has never seen"?

    I'm reading Some Kind of Hero at the moment. Apparently one of Wade and Purvis's plot ideas for TWINE was "a genetically targeted virus that would kill one in ten people".
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    edited August 2019 Posts: 4,409
    KOP wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »

    Again I ask thee: is cloning "dangerous technology that the world has never seen"?

    I'm reading Some Kind of Hero at the moment. Apparently one of Wade and Purvis's plot ideas for TWINE was "a genetically targeted virus that would kill one in ten people".

    This is 100% more likely to be the plot over cloning.

    I wouldn't be adverse to ALL HE TIME IN THE WORLD. It's a little long and obvious, but heck, it was bound to be used as a Bond title one day, so why not? Especially if the context is fitting.

    Though I've been doing some research into genomes and found this (amongst numerous other articles):

    The human body is a mosaic of different genomes
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01780-9

    This word 'mosaic' keeps coming up in articles concerning genes and genomes. It has a specific context in the DNA sector:

    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_(genetics)

    In genetics, a mosaic (or mosaicism) means the presence of two different genotypes in an individual which developed from a single fertilized egg. As a result, the individual has two or more genetically different cell lines derived from a single zygote.

    230px-Cat_Briciola_with_pretty_and_different_colour_of_eyes.jpg

    I think that Mosaic sounds like a terrific title for an espionage film. It's certainly cool and evocative. There's a certain sense of mystery and it fits nicely with the titles of the other Craig films......

    Just a bit of harmless speculation......but I think MOSAIC really works as a title.

    x51IJTj_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,207
    Oooh, I actually like that...
  • danielccdanielcc
    Posts: 79
    Regarding the genetically targeted virus. Ever since I read Dan Brown's Inferno (and saw the respective movie), I felt that this would have been the perfect Bond villain plot, a modern version of OHMSS or even closer to MR.

    One could argue that the opportunity is now gone after Inferne, but I feel that a similar plot could still be used especially as Inferne is completely lacking a present and menacing villain.

  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    00Agent wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Bond 25 filming will take place at Dalí Universe - Dalí a Matera on August 21, August 29 and September 17, 2019.


    Thanks for this post @Red_Snow , if you or anyone has specific shooting locations and dates in and around Matera, i would deeply appreciate it, as i am planing to stay there a week in mid september. Depending on shooting dates i will plan my trip accordingly.

    Such a wonderful location. ^:)^

    The perfect lair for a villain, one could say. \m/

    It's a beautiful location, that's a big plus, so i can go there just for holiday. But it's the last chance i'll ever get to see Dan in action and I would deeply regret it, if i didn't give it a shot.

    I've been to many of Craigs locations already, but only after the shooting. This would be the first time i see the production live.

    Have a great time mate. :)>-
  • HarmonyRocketsHarmonyRockets
    edited August 2019 Posts: 181
    Am I the only one that doesn't get the clone idea? How young is the "young Madeleine" character supposed to be? Because that is obviously how much time would need to pass until the clone was born to when it takes place. If the clone was 20, then Bond would be 20 years older. Certainly Bond is not going to be in his 70's. Am I missing something? This theory doesn't make sense to me. Unless they do some really cheesy, totally unbelievable sci-fi thing like rapidly aging her 20 years, or she's supposed to be some sort of robot replicant.
  • BonSimonLeBon_1BonSimonLeBon_1
    Posts: 2,436
    HarmonyRockets wrote: »
    Am I the only one that doesn't get the clone idea? How young is the "young Madeleine" character supposed to be? Because that is obviously how much time would need to pass until the clone was born to when it takes place. If the clone was 20, then Bond would be 20 years older. Certainly Bond is not going to be in his 70's. Am I missing something? This theory doesn't make sense to me. Unless they do some really cheesy, totally unbelievable sci-fi thing like rapidly aging her 20 years, or she's supposed to be some sort of robot replicant.

    All will be revealed come April 2020!
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,846
    So we still don’t have a title dam it

    How about Attack of the clones

    Wait why does that sound familiar and why do I suddenly want to see Natalie Portman in a Crop top?
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