NTTD & Corona

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  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    cooperman2 wrote: »
    With a new trailer and posters it would seem that NTTD is a definite lock for November. I guess EON and MGM are just going to hope for the best and have abandoned any idea of a billion dollar Bond.

    It'll probably be years before we get any film that makes a billion dollars. Survivors of the Spanish Flu pandemic spoke about how it actually took up to three years for people to feel safe to actually go out and congregate. That nothing really returned to "normal" until roughly 1923.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    How locked was it for April earlier this year? If at all? I'm skeptical but also very hopeful.

    I wouldn't say it's locked yet. I bought tickets for two different showings and the date was pushed maybe two days later.
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    How locked was it for April earlier this year? If at all? I'm skeptical but also very hopeful.

    I wouldn't say it's locked yet. I bought tickets for two different showings and the date was pushed maybe two days later.

    I had the same thing happen to me. I am more optimistic this time as they are pushing ahead wiyh the knowledge of how COVID has changed public opinion and the way we live. I believe the first delay was partly because of all the unknowns involved.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited September 2020 Posts: 4,343
    I’m seriously worried about late November, with all the consequences following the increase of the infections with colder temperatures.

    “The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation updated its projections on Friday, estimating 410,451 deaths from COVID-19 in the U.S. by Jan. 1. The new projection is more than twice the current death toll, which stands at approximately 187,200, according to Johns Hopkins University. The institute also projects a dramatic increase in the daily death count, which could rise to as high as 3,000 per day by December.”

    https://www.google.it/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-09-04/key-model-predicts-more-than-410-000-coronavirus-deaths-in-the-us-by-january?context=amp
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    Let’s see where we are in a week. Uk Numbers nearly doubled overnight to 3000 new cases
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited September 2020 Posts: 15,723
    Tenet opening weekend in China: $35,050,000.

    Tenet US opening weekend: between $9,750,000 to $10,500,000.

    Tenet second international weekend: $52,000,000.

    Tenet current word-wide total: approximately $150,000,000.

    UPDATE: Warner Bros. has finally released the official numbers: Tenet has grossed an estimated $20.2M through Labor Day weekend domestically (including all preview & Canadian grosses).

    That is a 4 day domestic opening weekend of $20,2 million, instead of the normal 3 days. If you remove the Canadian box office results, Tenet has barely grossed $10 million at the US box office this weekend. It was projected to open at $25 million.
  • Posts: 625
    I hope the poor US/Canada- and China-numbers will not lead to more release date postponements.
    I was suprised, that EON/MGM/Universal decided to start the NTTD campaign mid-week, not knowing the US- and China-numbers from Tenet.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    Canada’s COVID numbers are low. Don’t lump them in with us Americans, that’s doing them a grave disservice on many fronts.

    Only the US and Brazil are running rampant with COVID. I know people don’t want politics gumming up the works in this thread, but the reason why these two countries are out of control with this pandemic is because they’re run by neofascists who don’t give enough of a damn, if at all. Stay safe, my fellow Americans and our Brazilian friends.
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    Canada’s COVID numbers are low. Don’t lump them in with us Americans, that’s doing them a grave disservice on many fronts.

    I spoke about the BoxOffice-numbers, not Corona-numbers.

    And the canadian numbers are part of the US-BoxOffice-numbers.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    Derp. My bad. Regardless, some might find this interesting on the COVID front:

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases

    Just enter countries.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
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    Yeah I’d feel better if NTTD was in October release.... if Tenet under performs grossly and then Wonder Woman 2 does same, then they just wasted a lot of marketing money for NTTD because they’ll push it out again
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Jan1985 wrote: »
    I hope the poor US/Canada- and China-numbers will not lead to more release date postponements.
    I was suprised, that EON/MGM/Universal decided to start the NTTD campaign mid-week, not knowing the US- and China-numbers from Tenet.

    We don’t even know if theaters will be open by November and its pretty much a given that with colder temperatures the situation will be worse than now, especially in Europe. Those numbers are depressing and I don’t see NTTD coming out under these circumstances.
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    Stay safe, my fellow Americans and our Brazilian friends.

    Thank you mate.
  • jamesbond0007jamesbond0007 mississippi
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    Why is every one so worried about box office numbers these days ? Are any of you getting paid any money from the big liberal Hollywood studios and overpriced theaters ?
    So what does it matter what a film does in these pandemic times ?

    Hopefully TENETS failure will lead to the release online or straight to DVD of other films .........
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Why is every one so worried about box office numbers these days ? Are any of you getting paid any money from the big liberal Hollywood studios and overpriced theaters ?
    So what does it matter what a film does in these pandemic times ?

    Hopefully TENETS failure will lead to the release online or straight to DVD of other films .........

    Funny enough, you answered your own question - because box office success is a great indicator of what's to come and these same returns may very well shape the future of moviegoing and cinemas as a whole. No need to bring politics into this and there's certainly no reason, only four posts in, to be so combative over something so logical.
  • Posts: 632
    Why is every one so worried about box office numbers these days ? Are any of you getting paid any money from the big liberal Hollywood studios and overpriced theaters ?
    So what does it matter what a film does in these pandemic times ?

    Hopefully TENETS failure will lead to the release online or straight to DVD of other films .........

    Because big budgets need to make their money back and if it bombs, Bond films find themselves in jeopardy. Personally, I want my first impression of something I care about to be in a cinema, and if that can't be so, high definition, not DVD.
  • Personally, I'd prefer to see No Time to Die for the first time cropped on television with commercial breaks, and maybe with some of the scenes shuffled around or excised with a voiceover from the network telling you what's happening.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Personally, I'd prefer to see No Time to Die for the first time cropped on television with commercial breaks, and maybe with some of the scenes shuffled around or excised with a voiceover from the network telling you what's happening.

    Really? I was hoping to see it on my phone at 2x speed and in pan/scan
  • jamesbond0007jamesbond0007 mississippi
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    JET007 wrote: »
    Why is every one so worried about box office numbers these days ? Are any of you getting paid any money from the big liberal Hollywood studios and overpriced theaters ?
    So what does it matter what a film does in these pandemic times ?

    Hopefully TENETS failure will lead to the release online or straight to DVD of other films .........

    Because big budgets need to make their money back and if it bombs, Bond films find themselves in jeopardy. Personally, I want my first impression of something I care about to be in a cinema, and if that can't be so, high definition, not DVD.

    What do you think DVD'S and blu rays play in ? HIGH DEFINITION TV'S
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,011

    JET007 wrote: »
    Why is every one so worried about box office numbers these days ? Are any of you getting paid any money from the big liberal Hollywood studios and overpriced theaters ?
    So what does it matter what a film does in these pandemic times ?

    Hopefully TENETS failure will lead to the release online or straight to DVD of other films .........

    Because big budgets need to make their money back and if it bombs, Bond films find themselves in jeopardy. Personally, I want my first impression of something I care about to be in a cinema, and if that can't be so, high definition, not DVD.

    What do you think DVD'S and blu rays play in ? HIGH DEFINITION TV'S

    DVDs aren't high definition, you're missing his subjective point and arguing something irrelevant.
  • Personally, I'd prefer to see No Time to Die for the first time cropped on television with commercial breaks, and maybe with some of the scenes shuffled around or excised with a voiceover from the network telling you what's happening.

    Really? I was hoping to see it on my phone at 2x speed and in pan/scan

    No question it would be an exhilarating thing experiencing the new Bond on a screen the size of your phone and the prospect of sped-up chipmunk voices sure is tantalizing, but it does bring to mind bad memories of the Bond team’s attempt at comedy with that cringeworthy Spectre promo featuring a baby-voiced Daniel Craig.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    @jamesbond0007
    Interesting point old chap.

    But what do you say to the fact that No Time to Die was filmed on Panavision Panaflex Millennium XL2 G-Series Lenses with an anamorphic lens on a four perforation 35 millimeter Kodak film with a 2x squeeze on the native ratio for a total resolution of about 5600x3620 pixels? Or what about the sequences filmed on Imax 70mm horizontal film with 15 perforations and close to a 12k resolution with an aperture of 70.41 mm × 52.63 mm?

    Will that show up on my motion smoothing LED high definition tv with a dvd player?
  • jamesbond0007jamesbond0007 mississippi
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    @jamesbond0007
    Interesting point old chap.

    But what do you say to the fact that No Time to Die was filmed on Panavision Panaflex Millennium XL2 G-Series Lenses with an anamorphic lens on a four perforation 35 millimeter Kodak film with a 2x squeeze on the native ratio for a total resolution of about 5600x3620 pixels? Or what about the sequences filmed on Imax 70mm horizontal film with 15 perforations and close to a 12k resolution with an aperture of 70.41 mm × 52.63 mm?

    Will that show up on my motion smoothing LED high definition tv with a dvd player?

    Trust me you will never know the difference considering the film will not play long at theaters anyway and you will be watching the DVD/TV Versions for years to come after that........
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    @jamesbond0007
    Interesting point old chap.

    But what do you say to the fact that No Time to Die was filmed on Panavision Panaflex Millennium XL2 G-Series Lenses with an anamorphic lens on a four perforation 35 millimeter Kodak film with a 2x squeeze on the native ratio for a total resolution of about 5600x3620 pixels? Or what about the sequences filmed on Imax 70mm horizontal film with 15 perforations and close to a 12k resolution with an aperture of 70.41 mm × 52.63 mm?

    Will that show up on my motion smoothing LED high definition tv with a dvd player?

    Trust me you will never know the difference considering the film will not play long at theaters anyway and you will be watching the DVD/TV Versions for years to come after that........

    I am trusting you that there is no difference between dvd and imax 70mm film and the film will look just as good on my 4k tv with vcr
  • RyanRyan Canada
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    @jamesbond0007
    Interesting point old chap.

    But what do you say to the fact that No Time to Die was filmed on Panavision Panaflex Millennium XL2 G-Series Lenses with an anamorphic lens on a four perforation 35 millimeter Kodak film with a 2x squeeze on the native ratio for a total resolution of about 5600x3620 pixels? Or what about the sequences filmed on Imax 70mm horizontal film with 15 perforations and close to a 12k resolution with an aperture of 70.41 mm × 52.63 mm?

    Will that show up on my motion smoothing LED high definition tv with a dvd player?

    Trust me you will never know the difference considering the film will not play long at theaters anyway and you will be watching the DVD/TV Versions for years to come after that........

    Personally I will be watching the Blu-ray and/or UHD version for years to come.
  • If they really want to bring things full circle with Casino Royale they’d release it on VHS.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
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    NTTD is getting heavy advertising here in US.... every time I’m watching something on YouTube or TV I’m seeing ads for it.... it seems like they’re going all in regardless of what happens










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    Consider that for some of us, seeing a brand new Bond in a cinema is an event, one that some of us have been doing as a tradition for decades. There are only 2 of the films I didn't see on a cinema screen and I know had I seen TSWLM on release on a big screen in 1977 that I may be a bigger fan of it, although I saw it on a summer revival series a few years back.

    Call it a geek thing, but Bond is a special enough subject for some of us that the theater experience is part of what makes us fans. I can still recall the venue I saw the film, who I was with, my impressions at the time, and in some cases what I did afterward. I can't really say that with many things on home video, streaming or so much else that is so readily available these days.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    From the BBC (Coronavirus: Social gatherings above six banned in England from 14 September)
    While this could go in the general COVID-19 thread, I will post this here since there maybe NTTD implications.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54081131

    “Social gatherings of more than six people will be illegal in England from Monday - with some exemptions - amid a steep rise in coronavirus cases.

    A new legal limit will ban larger groups meeting anywhere socially indoors or outdoors, No 10 said.

    But it will not apply to schools, workplaces or Covid-secure weddings, funerals and organised team sports.”


    Apparently (IMO), this is not a done deal yet, and that details are pending. Does anyone have additional information on this, or how it may impact theaters in the UK?
  • RedNineRedNine Poland
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    Surely Cinemas must be safe or the ban would have to also impact restaurants and other businesses. I would still love to see some actual data on the impact of cinemas to COVID numbers and not just theory how people think the virus is spreading and how it may spread in cinema
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