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When you look at TENET's BO performance the release of NTTD in November 2020 makes no sense to me.
Added to which, both Vallance and Whitty in the UK seem quietly confident that a vaccine stands a good chance of being issued by spring next year - so hold off releasing this movie another 6 months.
I cannot understand how anyone closely involved with this movie thinks it's a good idea to release it in cinemas at a time of year when both covid and influenza are highly likely to be resurgent!!
"You see them at the beginning being two very different people having to work together in a way that they've not worked together before, but as they evolve, their boisterousness and the way their approach their jobs and the way they are with each other becomes just really friendly and respectable. He learns a lot from her, and she definitely learns a lot of experience from him."
I'm pretty interested to see this now - it's been hyped over and over again. There hasn't really been this 'casual power couple' dynamic between Bond and a Bond girl since around the Brosnan era and I'm expecting something that will be a mix of Wai Lin and Jinx, who both had this with Brosnan.
This would be a first for Bond, right? I can't think of anoother example. Although tbf there hasn't really been a buddy cop thing with Bond for any new male character, either, unless we count reoccuring characters and not one-movie characters.
Apart from Camille, Bond has so far, not had any non-sexual partnership with a one-off female character. In fact, I wonder if Nomi will replace the role of Felix for the forseeable future, given all the evidence that Felix meets his demise on the boat, which would make her the first reoccurring female side buddy character.
Although I don't think that'll be the case with Nomi as a recurring character. Mainly because I personally think this is the end for everyone in this film.
Whether Bond lives or dies, I think Nomi will go off remaining 007, and the next film will be another reboot (although not an origin story). So if Felix does indeed die, then the whole thing will be rebooted for another actor to be the new Felix with the new James Bond. I also think we'll get a new MI6 team.
Yes I think that's likely.
A bit of me kind of hopes Nomi is good enough to have her own spin off in some kind of way (although she couldn't stay 007 for that), but another bit of me thinks you can't really do a spinoff in the world of Bond because the world is Bond. With something like Mission Impossible I think you could do it easily (and I do wonder if perhaps they should) but not so easily with Bond.
The thought has just occurred that the only time I can think of it being suggested to happen that Bond is in a 'buddy' partner relationship with another spy was in the original Bond 15 treatment which Michael Wilson wanted to be a 'Bond Begins', and in that the young Bond was partnered with another MI6 agent, and that other agent held the code number 007, just like it seems to be the case here! Funny how these things tend to come around again! :)
First, I suppose it's too early to say whether it's a good idea. A while back people were hailing them as geniuses for holding tight onto a good slot, and they may do again if NTTD turns a good profit. On the other hand, if it flops or limps to middling returns like Tenet (or goes to VOD purgatory like Mulan) then maybe the criticism is warranted. But short of a crystal ball, nobody is making perfect decisions these days.
Second, I don't want to get too off-topic, but (having worked in this field), it's a very long way from a vaccine being "approved" to it being injected in the average movie-goer. Anything that gets rolled out as early as the spring would be in small batches and administered only to the highest-risk groups. It would be later still before the general population was getting it.
I know it's a relatively big deal they've cast a woman to portray a double-oh agent, but this is meant to be a James Bond movie about James Bond with Daniel Craig exiting the role.
I want to see more of Craig than Lynch, ESPECIALLY since this is his last film.
I've been having this exact problem with this production, right from the very start. NTTD, in production, was all about Bond women and what not. If the film serves these agendas or not, that remains to be seen, but the production sure did. Even the writers and the director himself were outshone by Phoebe Waller-Bridge in almost every written piece by the so called media.
Oh man, that would be comedic gold!
But I think not. Could be too Austin Powers too. All of this can still be a bit Austin Powerish, I think, if not treated well.
Yeah completely agree. It's nothing against Ms Lynch but it's Daniel Craig's last film as Bond, I want to celebrate that, not Nomi a character we have never met and who probably won't carry on outside of this current timeline. I don't think Naomie Harris got this much coverage during Skyfall
Hopefully this Being James Bond documentary will serve as more of a celebration of Daniel's Bond
I really hope it's just journaism being journalism. It's done for a lot of movies nowadays, especially ones with history or lore.
They already dove into that territory in SP so it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination, sadly.
I'm sure Nokia would have loved to get Craig, but obviously there's a limit to the promotions he does. It's just an advert, it's nothing to worry about.
Because she's more famous than Fukunaga is, and people who read entertainment pages in the papers are interested in people they've heard of and recognise. It's pretty simple stuff.
Right from the start NTTD was about it being Craig's last film. They cast some female co-stars, but they always do that. It was never only 'about' them, that's absolute nonsense- I don't think they even told us their character names, did they? Nothing to feel threatened about.
Funny you say that, because she got her own mobile phone ad shot by the Thames too.
Are we supposed to have been irritated by that as well? It's only an advert! :))
He will try, but she will be immune to his charme. :D
Because the way things look at the moment, November might end up being the best they can get for the immediate future. I don't see things being "normal" until next summer, at the earliest. Things are better now than in March, for sure. I think this spring is going to be worse, because a vaccine might be announced in December and it will lead to complacency. But that vaccine wouldn't be available to everyone immediately. I fear a big wave starting late January. I hope to God I am wrong.
Yeah something is up with her.
(And for the record people: pic 2 not new. It's in the archive)
In a nutshell, and IMO, the film will deliver Bond/Daniel Craig in spades, and lay rest to a concern that was fuel by the media's coverage of this production. That's all.
They're called strong etc. every time there's a Bond film out.
The female writer got more credit in the mainstream media because she's more famous than anyone else behind the camera on the film, it's not a conspiracy.
She was mentioned as being a feminist because papers like the Daily Mail who reported that want you to see that as a bad thing and the world is falling apart because even James bleedin' Bond is one of those leftie woke snowflakes now, and he's not even stopping all of the immigrants.
A rather extreme bit of hyperbole there! Methinks the lady doth protest too much :) I thought you loved a bit of cod psychology based on almost nothing.
You filtered out all of the coverage about him being injured, stopping production, all of the questions to him whether its his last, the interviews he's done etc. Memory and perception is a funny old thing.
Perhaps in the US, but there’s no way the situation will be worse in Europe next Spring compared to the coming Autumn/Winter. We never faced a COVID-19 winter, and its a coronavirus we’re talking about...
I agree with most of what you said there. Even if a bit hyperbolised. Although I'm not so sure Phoebe Waller-Bridge is the best known piece in this particular chess board.
Hyperboles are there to be used. But what I meant was that I'm tired that every time someone calls out the feminist agenda, or at least the extremist branch of it, someone else says it's because they're threatened by it.
Nah, I know that happened, in a smaller scale than "the topic" in hand. My memory's just fine. Listen, you can't deny that it's an important matter. More so than ever. I'm all for equality and empowerment. I bet I do more for it professionally than most. It has been in the media since the early 20th century, but now it's undeniably in the front line, as race and gender matters are. If they address it, it's a product of the Times, and that's useful and normal. Denying it and saying it's always been like that is being a bit obtuse, Queen Gertrude. BTW, "methinks" comes at the end of the sentence ;) if we want to be anal about it.
Good to know we're talking, btw, even if that line between civility and innuendo is still thin.
Exactly my point, @jake24. It was the media that over-hyped the feminist angle in the game. Not the players, not even the referees ;) That's why I said:
"In a nutshell, and IMO, the film will deliver Bond/Daniel Craig in spades, and lay rest to a concern that was fuel by the media's coverage of this production. That's all"