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What’s your opinion on CASINO ROYALE?
Casino Royale, Skyfall and No Time To Die are all truly great Bond movies.
Still, after repeat viewings it does tend to drag in its second half and it actually starts being a bit difficult to sit through in one sitting. Even though I love all the casino scenes.
That’s probably why SF is actually my favorite of the Craig run. It also feels more like a classic Bond film, especially with Javier Bardem’s flamboyant Silva. Though the personal angst stuff wears thin for me. Which is the one common thread through the entire Craig run, which seems to only get worse and worse with each new film. They really needed to put a kibosh on that a long time ago!
So at the end of the day these new Bonds just don’t do it for me like the old classics do.
Yeah, overall, I prefer the older Bond films. A personal angle is fine every now and then but not for every film.
Still prefer CR and perhaps SF to NTTD, but NTTD is certainly much better than QOS, and more enjoyable than SP. Regarding spoilers, there are at least 4 things that happened in this film i was not expecting. Still think Blofeld was not utilized to best effect, and Safin to me was a weak point, appeared to young, and didn't fit in with the timeline of the story. I must admit i was taken a back when Nomi said she was the new 007, but we know what happens later in the film. The title song was ok, but Billy Eilish sings her songs as though she is half asleep. I thought the story was good, and the action sequences splendid, particularly Bond being pursued over the wasteland, and forest by Land Rover Defenders.......then the excellent gun battles, particularly the close quarter gun battles Bond has towards the end of the film, using John Wick like tactics. As most have said the Cuban sequence with the female CIA agent was good.......and there was some funny quips in the movie. Yep film was good............the difficult thing now is how the hell are the film producers going to proceed in which direction the series will be going forward.
I feel the same way in some respects. As much as I liked NTTD on it's initial viewing I can't see myself popping in the Blu-ray nearly as often as I do the older films. I'm rarely in the mood for CR as excellent as it is. I can watch FRWL, OHMSS TSWLM and TLD multiple times per year.
I've just seen NTTD a second time, but don't have the desire to rush out to see it again. I'll may just wait for the Blu-ray at this point.
I really don't think I can watch this one again. The only other Bond film I felt that way about was DAD. I have erased that one from my memory, and never thought I would have to again until this steaming turd came along.
Okay but like...you hated the film. That's about as far removed as possible from the reactions I'm referring to.
I went to see it again last night for the 4th time and as soon as i got home, i knew that i would be going again soon. It just gets better and better each time i see it. With the exception of DAD (which i only saw once at the cinema), i'm not sure which Bond film i've seen the most either - but every film i've watched at the cinema, there's been at least 2 visits. I think NTTD will break my record though. I cant wait to see it again, its almost like an addiction. Love the film so much.
I loved it, and I'll be watching it again as soon as it hits Bluray. I'll also likely see it again in theatres before the end of the run. Only time will tell with regards to how often I'll revisit this one, but I feel like I'll re-watch this one at least as often as the others.
Oh you do surprise me, if only you'd been going on about your disapproval of the film and it's conclusion and going into all threads on the forum about NTTD and pouring your misery out.
Also tagging anyone that was in the same ball park as your opinion and going on about how so right they were.
If only that had happened we might not have been so surprised by your remark above, please do next time Willy give us more clues before you state such an opinion, you really caught us all of guard with this.
I'am very surprised by Jetsetwilly's response to NTTD, as based on his views on previous Craig films he had nothing but praise for them..........i wonder why he's done a 180 degreee U-turn?
+1. Of course there is room for all opinions here (hopefully), but there's nothing constructive to add (and add, and add...) if you've open and shut the case for yourself, and are only interested in creating a little echo chamber of the exact same opinion for yourself (in tagging and engaging only those that agree).
I should probably keep my mouth shut as a forum newbie, but I daresay it goes both ways. I have seen people here go in circles praising NTTD to high heaven, and express disbelief and discontent at anyone who dares disagree.
Then, like God, I shall pass definitive judgment on the film. I hope history will be kind to me.
(Okay, not really definitive judgment, but I'll have a more stable, robust opinion.)
And if you really are Léa Seydoux, then you've got God-like covered.
Absolutely agree. For me, as a person who loves NTTD, it's very easy for me to understand why people don't like it / it isn't the Bond film they wanted. Personally I haven't seen a lot of people who praise NTTD as you say and then also express disbelief and discontent at anyone who dares disagree, but I'm sure the sentiment exists. I think I made my comment because I've seen a lot more of what @Shardlake was saying; people who dislike it, and express disbelief and discontent at anyone who dares disagree.
But again, I can only comment on my own personal experience, of which your is absolutely equally valid.
Although continually stating same old rhetoric over and over again comes across as bitter, I don't think anyone on this forum doesn't know that @jetsetwilly was upset with how No Time To Die concluded.
Also with regards to where we go next.
If you don't like Craig's portrayal and prefer the surface level playboy, with witty quips who we don't really have any other understanding of after that, then yes his bruised, battered version is likely to wind you up.
Though you had 20 films of this, Dalton tried to buck the trend but he still was shackled with the Moore era, even when he was trying inject Fleming into the portrayal.
Although I feel that, though things might lighten up a bit, I really can't see the next reiteration of Bond slipping back into the version before Craig.
Anti Craig types just want to say that he is just another actor and he'll be replaced and we'll move on but sorry, this guy shifted the goal posts, opened the possibility to who could play this role and who would want to play it.
I just can't see a move back to, he gets a mission he goes on that mission and he saves the day, I don't think the next actor will want that, they'll want more and the reason they'll want that is because of Daniel Craig.
thank you for the thoughful answer! :)
With the film dividing opinion as much as it did (which I suspect was the filmmakers' intent), it is inevitable that posts in an early reactions thread tend to run in two parallel sets of conversations, and for now, it is probably for the best. As you say, it is a futile task to try and change others' reactions to a piece of art, but at the same time neither "side" should invalidate the other's reaction; the "unhappy" viewers need a place to vent their feelings as much as the "happy" ones. I am not a fan of NTTD (though my issue is less with the ending and more with the uneven pace/tone throughout, and with blurring the genre boundaries too much for my liking), but it is actually enlightening, if at times exasperating, to read views very different from mine.
I think the hyper-critical posts and the overly effusive ones are about equally irritating. This isn't Joe Dirt and its not Casablanca. Its a damn good Bond movie.
It’s a damn good ELEVATED Bond movie— agreed (🤫)!
If the Craig era has given us anything, it's a different Craig-era-rating for seemingly every single person, which truly is a great thing.
There's a website someone here posted once (I'll link it below), where you compare two Bond films repeatedly until you get your final ranking, and I did it recently and accidentally (?) put Spectre at the top! I do love Spectre, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's better than all the rest, lol.
https://sorta.app/q/1029/
SP was pretty good, and in some parts very good, but the sum of all the parts was somewhat underwhelming. The film was painfully slow in some scenes.
"Surface level playboy" is why the character works. Bond uses quips, drinks, and womanizing to take the edge of off his life of killing. He doesn't live to kill, he lives for the luxuries that are bought and paid for by the British government.
We had five straight films of Craig's Bond going rogue and fighting personal enemies. There was far more variety, in terms of plots, themes, and ranges of emotion, in the earlier films. From Russia With Love, Moonraker, Licence to Kill, and The World Is Not Enough are vastly different movies but they all work as Bond movies.