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Ego? I'm not sure how that would boost his ego...?
Ethan skidding to the edge was just a movie moment, there to look cool. It doesn't make Benji incompetent.
Anyway, I'm not interested in an argument about it.
The skid and stunt do look cool, so no complaints here.
Agreed! I love both scores too.
I'm glad you enjoyed it @SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷
There are a couple of highlights in there, but overall it just wasn't for me. It's not really a "alternative" Mission: Impossible theme: Balfe is just pulling certain notes and using them differently. It's a nice way of approaching it. admittedly. Kraemer did the same thing with his action material in Rogue Nation, but I find that score far superior to this one.
There is the steam train thundering through the Alps - as per The Lady Vanishes.
But then it becomes a run away steam train hurtling towards a crash, like the carousel/merry-go-round in Strangers on Train. In SoaT the hero and villain fight each other in the crazy carousel to claim possession of a lighter. In MI:DR p1 they fight each other on top of the run away train and Ethan swaps the key for a….lighter
And then there is Grace. She’s the closest we have ever come to a Hitchcock style protagonist in these movies. Not a spy but someone in way over their head caught up in spy world shenanigans, being chased by multiple parties, just like Thonrhill in North by Northwest or Hannay in The 39 Steps.
In fact she has an arc not entirely dissimilar to Thornhill in NbNW, picking a side towards the end of the movie and doing something for a greater good.
She’s a thief of course . Is her name a call out to Grace Kelly, from To Catch A Thief?
Grace having to do the mission on the train alone has echoes of Lisa (Grace Kelly) having to search the murderers apartment alone in Rear Window
And the climax of the movie has the hero and heroine clinging vertically off a mountain/ravine, just like North by Northwest , and ends with them in the safety of a train
Maybe I’m over thinking this
Yeah, I see what you mean. The score just happens to resonate with me though. Aah! Yes! I won't lie, Joe Kraemer's score is so unique. I really loved it. Kraemer made The Syndicate & Solomon Lane really mysterious.
Thank you. I’m a huge Hitchcock and Bond fan - one day I’ll have to bore you with my Skyfall / Vertigo comparison
You're welcome! I've actually been meaning to revisit Vertigo so I'd love to read that whenever I do.
Curious what you didn't like about Fallout that made this top it?
Fallout had amazing scope and incredible action but it still had that common problem for the mission films where it feels like the slate is wiped clean after each set piece and the characters return to their defaults for the next part of the film to get underway. With dead reckoning the narrative just flows beautifully into each new location, and by the end you believe the characters have really come on a journey together. The third act really hit me hard especially between Tom and Hayley, she sold it so well. Can't wait for part 2 now.
Actually you’ll find my analysis on page 43 of the Skyfall “Did I overcomplicate the plot” appreciation thread
Apologies for veering off topic here
All good! I'll try to keep that in mind then. Thanks again.
Was the bridge exploding real? It looked very convincing.
They did dress Ethan intentionally like Cary Grant in North By Northwest for the opening of Rogue Nation, so I wouldn't say that any of those are incorrect and I think you're probably on the money. McQ is always putting in references and shots which homage previous films: like the last two both had shots which mirror shots from things like Day of the Condor etc.
As well as callbacks to the first film: the opening of Fallout has the "Did we get it?"/"We got it" dialogue from the opening to Da Palma's M:I (that scene also pays homage to a heist from the TV show); and in Rogue Nation, when he's on the run in London and using the phone box, Ethan calls in using the same code he used to call in in the Prague section of M:I.
I didn’t realise that. Tom is without tie in that scene and
I also loved the bridge being blown and then the train topping of it . It looked so utterly realistic and cool and It was just really exciting and fun.
As I bask in the afterglow of the movie, I find myself wishing Part 2 was coming sooner. I loved this film. Did anyone catch Calvin's review. His problems with the film are more about how the climax doesn't feel like a true climax. I would agree but am willing to overlook because I know the climax of part 2 will be great stuff!
I was really excited that we'd only have to wait less than a year for Part 2 but now the strikes pretty much assure it'll get pushed to the following summer, if we're lucky. I think I read only 30-40% had been filmed but I'm not sure how accurate those numbers are.
Just off the one stunt I saw them filming for for Part 2, I've no doubt it's going to be brilliant whenever it finally arrives.
I better put this as a spoiler just in case