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Ah… I still don’t think it’ll work like that.
I mean, don’t Nolan’s films get some sort of press release when they’re officially in pre-production? He likely has a more ‘hand pick’ approach to actors nowadays, but when he did Batman it seemed he was announced as director/writer, developed the script for a few months, then did auditions for the lead… would it not just be the same if hypothetically he were the director of Bond 26?
I mean, isn’t this pretty much how all major films work/how publicity and info is released?
I'm actually okay with that. We have 25 excellent Bond movies to enjoy. We'll all be at least another decade older and wiser when Bond does return. It also gives us 10 years to prepare for the HUGE celebration of Bond's return.
Let's place a bet!
It's funny, because I probably would go in the opposite direction and look into talent from TV and streaming shows. I'm sure there are writers and directors who would deserve the chance.
But the opposite direction is the usual and normal direction.
Hahaha. That would be one bet I'd love to lose. :D
I offered a bet to the good folk over at AJB forum that we'll see B26 before 2027. No one responded.
If you've been following the discussions on this forum you'll know we do talk about other directors. Nolan and Villeneuve get brought up the most often because they are the best regarded, highest profile directors of the moment who have expressed an interest in directing a Bond film; Martin Campbell's name is thrown in the ring often too, because despite his age he did help usher in new Bonds with very successful first movies, so it is easy to see Eon considering hiring him again as he might be considered a safe pair of hands. Other directors are brought up though, especially in the thread that focusses on potential Bond directors.
As for candidates from TV, @peter brought up Jonathan Nolan recently, a suggestion which was pretty well received here after he directed three episodes of Fallout (though I think he suggested he might need some more experience first).
OMG, they only have 3 movies in their pocket before Bond becomes public domain.
I think it's more complicated than that though: the trademark of James Bond 007 for one thing isn't going anywhere.
I can't pretend to fully understand it though, it's very complicated. For instance, it's not the entirety of the character of Mickey Mouse which has gone into public domain, just one version of him; and if you try and replicate the trademark of Mickey Mouse you'll have Disney come down on you.
To save Richard the effort ;)
I think it comes down to something like if you try to pass off your Bond as being the work of Eon then they can sue the pants off you (because they still hold the trademark); so anything like NSNA which apes the EON Bond series won't fly; and obviously the 007 logo, Bond theme, Q, crazy gadgets etc. are no goes. I think that might put anyone off making their own Bond films as it all becomes a bit of a grey area. You might get somethings more like CR'67, or the inevitable cheapo horror versions (but then Bond kind of gets used in that way today anyway).
Personally I was hoping for a bad slasher based tenuously around James Bond, similar to what happened with Winnie the Pooh and Steamboat Willie. Regardless though I don’t think it’ll have any impact on EoN. Much of what they do/the tropes of what we see as a Bond movie aren’t all within Fleming and much of it belongs to them.
Or another Enola Holmes.
The return of James Bond Jr 😂
We'll get a Mathilde spinoff
Yeah, and they'll be able to sue anyone who tries to pass their Bond off as being Eon's. So spoofs / musicals/horrors/quite dull cheapo adaptations of CR etc. are probably all we're likely to see, and we pretty much get those now anyway - sometimes they're even bold enough to use the Bond name, and in a spoof you kind of can.
I don't think any big studios would be likely to gamble on putting proper cash behind a big movie and try to take on Eon/MGM as it would be too risky legally. We might get more comic books or something I guess.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15260871/james-bond-colin-salmon-returns_boss.html?ico=topics_pagination_desktop
Colin Salmon returns to the Bond series as Robinson, Charles Robinson, double...oh...(wait for it) section chief of (what else?) the double oh section!, aka MI6 chief, 'M'. (Middle name is rumoured to be Martin or Michael).
Salmon spoke to the Daily Mail on Tuesday, and when pressed for information on the upcoming Bond 26, he stated that he has already filmed his "gun barrel walk". You heard that right folks, it's not Bond, but M that steps out in front of the barrel and is shot. Salmon went on to say, "There's an assassination attempt on M, which sets up the plot before the pre-title sequence has even begun. This iconic introduction, plus the theme - it all flows into the story seamlessly. The fans are going to love it."
We also get an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at Robinson 'home, sick with the flu' while Tanner fills in again. (see: TND novel)
Incidentally, two other MI6 staff also called in sick that day: Jenny from IT and Vanessa from accounting. Hmm, there's something going around for sure...
Bubble-oh-servin: Colin Salmon in character on set taking a well-earned break from keeping James Bond in line.
Yeah, I don’t think it’ll shake things up too much. But legit, I am looking forward to some b movie James Bond horror (if that’ll ever happen - c’mon Canada, I know you can do horror).
😂
Personally I’d be up for Salmon returning as M.
Bond is a power-fantasy, and the real threat comes from other heroes/franchises being able to use him to boost their own guy. A new Jason Bourne film could have Bourne beat the crap out of James Bond, which whilst cheap, tends to be effective in this genre. Batman eclipsed Superman after DC Comics gave Frank Miller the green light to have Batman beat Superman in The Dark Knight Returns. Batman literally stamped Superman's face into the dirt, and it led to Batman being hailed as the greatest super-hero ever because if he could beat Superman he could beat anyone. Batman's credibility went through the roof, and before you knew it he had a major movie series; Superman, on the other hand lost credibility and he's never regained his top-spot.
We'll have to see how this plays out. The Enola Holmes example is pretty good: Enola Holmes is Sherlock's smarter little sister, and whilst Sherlock doesn't come-off too badly, Mycroft Holmes, the original smarter Holmes sibling, is portrayed as a total arse, which he wasn't in the Conan Doyle stories.
I don't really see it- or at least I don't think it would do any harm. There's not much stopping that now anyway: someone posted a clip from the Black Dynamite cartoon where BD met James Bond (literally calling himself James Bond) and made him look foolish, you had Lazenby turning up as 'JB' in Man From Uncle etc. If anything I can see the copyright thing making Eon/MGM actually step up in protecting their copyright and stopping the sorts of things we see now from going ahead.
The thing about Sherlock Holmes is that there isn't one specific iconic adaptation of Holmes which anyone else can step too much. With Bond there's a case to say that Eon practically are co-creators, with Fleming, of the character as the world knows him, so I think any usage of the name in any cheapo films coming out will be pretty dreary and not really appeal to anyone who likes Bond. Much like that Japanese CR musical theatre thing: I don't think anyone expecting to see much of the character they like in the films would have been very satisfied. If someone made a Bond film and he so much as made a pun after killing someone they'd have to be very ready to find examples of him doing that in Fleming books, otherwise MGM will be suing them.
If the criteria is that the trademark means that anyone trying to pass off their Bond as Eon's can be liable, then Eon have protected that pretty well, as their Bond films run the gamut from MR to FRWL: if someone tries to make a more faithful Fleming adaptation then I guess they could point to FRWL or CR and say 'hey, we made it like that- you're stepping on our toes'. Likewise if you made a silly spoof version: 'hey, that's like Moonraker - see you in court'. I don't know if it works like that but it's conceivable.
Well, maybe EON are the ones who make unofficial movies.
The character is the Fleming's one.
XXX made something like that and it killed the Brosnan era.
1. Big name director, follow their vision, hope it sticks and hope they plan to return for a second or third. (Mendes, Nolan, Villenueve)
2. Eon lead the show with a TV-like director (Fukunaga)
3. More of a middle ground with a storied but not A-list director (Campbell, Branagh)
The sky is falling.
He seems to actually be on good terms with EoN still (I think I saw an interview where he praised NTTD/talked fondly of his time on Bond as well as EoN as a company). Assuming he’s available and was asked, going from that alone, I suspect he’d consider it. Also it’d be a nice way of preserving that Bond tradition of reusing actors for the MI6 regulars, at least in a way that’s removed enough from the Craig era to be that new character.
I think the context is different with that interconnected fictional world of superheros/its fandom. Fans likely for years thought about who would win in a fight between those two before TDKR. I don’t think Bond has an equivalent rival who could conceivably be a part of his world. And anyway, as was said there’s a minefield of stipulations about how Bond can be depicted under this, and there have been times when Bond (or indeed a Bond-like character) has died/been made to look foolish and it doesn’t seem to have mattered.
I don’t know much (or really near to anything) about DC comics, but I guess it’s worth saying that in terms of movies the Superman films pre-86 were subject to diminishing returns, so likely that had more an impact on why Batman (which did have a very successful film in ‘89) overtook that character in terms of popularity. Even when Cavill took the role Superman seemed subject to bad decisions (although for the life of me I’ll never understand this myth amongst Batman fans that Affleck was a good Batman/why he seems to have such a good reputation amongst them. Might be the novelty of seeing an older Batman who’s at his peak, but I thought his performances were bland at best, embarrassing at worst).
I don't think he's great, sorry. I find his diction a bit weird: like he's putting on an accent and over-pronouncing everything. I don't doubt he'd do it: he's been doing EastEnders!
I'd much rather have Michael Kitchen as M, he'd be wonderful (he would have been a great villain too - if you've ever seen his Edmund you'll know). He's knocking on a little though I guess and doesn't seem to do an awful lot- last time I saw him was in that Kemps thing (which he's hilarious in).
Unless they could get Rosamund Pike back in a different role. She's always welcome.
She'd be a very interesting M nowadays.