Superman: The Man of Tomorrow

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  • edited December 19 Posts: 4,295
    I'm not a big Superman fan so it's not a film I'd say I'm super buzzed about. But I liked the trailer and much prefer that kind of look/tone than what we got with Snyder. I'll give it a watch.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited December 19 Posts: 1,673
    mtm wrote: »
    Not quite sure why this isn't clicking for me. Maybe I'm just all Superheroed out.

    Yeah I'd say I'm not hyped for it from that trailer; I'd need to see a bit of dialogue to be a more interested I think. But I like Superman and nothing in there is instantly turning me off it like a Snyder one would. I'm interested.

    Something is putting me off. The trailer lacked a bit of narrative and I feel relies on people knowing the lore already, which is fine and fair, but doesn't sell me anything else in that place. Just "dog" and some shots of other heroes or villains, but no stakes established beyond "he saves people from... something." I'm confused what raising a small flag would do for Superman... just weird choices throughout. I could nitpick but I won't. Just something off. Can I say the cinematography looks bad when it's not showing me a CGI thing? The ground shots of the crowds in harsh sunlight look like they were shot with a phone.
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    I can’t tell how good this is going to be at all from that trailer. I hope very good, as I think the first two films with Christopher Reeve to this day are the only exceptional Superman films, and the series deserves better than what we’ve seen for a while. Also, we need an open world / sandbox Superman video game akin to the original Batman: Arkham games.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Mixed opinions. Every time a former comic book movie director has directed a Superman movie, it has been a mixed bag. I'm just not happy if Lex Luthor is the only villain, again.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    How much time is going to be spent in Smallville?
    Are we going to see his mom die instead of the father?
    What or who is that alien creature?
    Forgot that the Green Lanterns show up in this. How will they be explained?
    Why is a boy raising a torn and tattered Superman flag in a desert?

    I would say I am mildly interested and I guess that is what a teaser trailer is supposed to do.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited December 19 Posts: 4,537
    I watched Man Of Steel a couple of weeks a go (In 3D) and there was one / two things i don't like where mess with. One thing is that Lois known to fast who he is. Second thing is that it take till the end as set up for straight sequel that we see him at Dalyplanet / Clark with glaces. This made first point even worse. Also i must use to it first to very action kind of movie with Superman against his original ''Family'', it was refreshing it was not Blofeld (Luther). It always be him against the people (Because of his secret) or Luther (Who i always said it is Superman's Blofeld).

    There made mistake that there go for Batman vs Superman as sequel insteed of straight sequel of Man of Steel. Besides that you need introducing movie with Afleck Batman. I always have doubt, the Bluray error with the audio include, but after Man Of Steel i even feels les need to see that movie.

    Before Man of Steel, the last Superman i watched was Superman Returns on tv. I only remember it was boring.

    Trailer of this 2025 Superman movie: The Clark / Dalyplanet are there and look great. Superman having a dog like as in animated movie ?. Biggest problem the same as Disney doing with Marvel comic book movies (Whyle Warner already made spinoff series around Arrow. ). To much chacters, to much connection. One scene with Lois/Superman there at on wrong moment in the trailer, that it feels to much.

    I always have more with Batman and grow up with Superman 40's animation and Lois & Clark (Where i know Teri Hatcher from before she played in Tomorrow Never Dies). Superman original movies feel as slow movies and was not really happy with dvd's that exist back then (inspecialy 3th and 4th movie) and Warner disappointed Dutch people when there not release Dutch subtiteld release of that 8 disc Bluray boxset. One episode in very poor quality of that 40 animation on dvd besides Man Of Steel 2 Disc 3D Bluray (Who is part of combopack with three other movies) is only Superman man thing i have in my collection.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Not quite sure why this isn't clicking for me. Maybe I'm just all Superheroed out.

    Yeah I'd say I'm not hyped for it from that trailer; I'd need to see a bit of dialogue to be a more interested I think. But I like Superman and nothing in there is instantly turning me off it like a Snyder one would. I'm interested.

    Something is putting me off. The trailer lacked a bit of narrative and I feel relies on people knowing the lore already, which is fine and fair, but doesn't sell me anything else in that place. Just "dog" and some shots of other heroes or villains, but no stakes established beyond "he saves people from... something." I'm confused what raising a small flag would do for Superman... just weird choices throughout. I could nitpick but I won't. Just something off. Can I say the cinematography looks bad when it's not showing me a CGI thing? The ground shots of the crowds in harsh sunlight look like they were shot with a phone.

    It’s only a teaser, not a full blown theatrical trailer. Teasers are typically just collages of cool imagery.
  • Looks a bit cheap is my first impression.
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    Looks a bit cheap is my first impression.

    Cheap? Really?
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    My immediate take away is, it looks different from Snyder's Superman. The film's colour and atmosphere doesn't look apocalyptic, but has a feeling of utopia, amid the destruction going on on screen.
    Also, if that's John Murphy's take on Superman's music in the trailer, then it's got a John Williams feel to it.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Looks good, visually looks great, characters look good.
    My only drawback is the below par music.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Looks a bit cheap is my first impression.

    Cheap? Really?

    I would agree...
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    That shot of Superman shielding a little girl from destruction don’t look cheap.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    That shot of Superman shielding a little girl from destruction don’t look cheap.

    True.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    The trailer looks better in 4K, I have watched the trailer maybe 50 times now, I like what i am seeing but hate the music choice. I would like to see this trailer re scored with John Williams original score, i know it will vastly improve it.

    I am a fan of rock music though by rock music standards IMO the guitar in the trailer sounds pretty bad and does not fit Superman at all.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    That shot of Superman shielding a little girl from destruction don’t look cheap.

    I said in my first note my issue is with the shots that don't have major CGI elements. The ground shots of random people running scared look terrible. The lighting in some shots is harsh and bad. The CGI monster looks fantastic, as does the shot you mention. But there is a disconnect between shots in the trailer.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    mtm wrote: »

    If the majority of the score is orchestral from what we heard in the trailer it will be more tolerable. I love the idea John Williams theme is being used as Supes signature theme though make it a good variation.

    i need to listen to some of John Murphy's other work to get an idea of what he is likely to do with the score overall.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    The DC YouTube channel alone has had over 23 million views for the Superman teaser trailer in one day and that's just for the 4K trailer. I really want this film to be great and do well.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    I really want this film to be great and do well.
    Don't we all?
    ...
    Oh, wait... right.

  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    I really want this film to be great and do well.
    Don't we all?
    ...
    Oh, wait... right.

    I can only ever speak for myself.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited December 20 Posts: 1,673
    I don't care if it does well. I'm not invested. It's just a movie. I want it to be good, but based on what I see, I have to be honest and trust my inner critic for what I personally like. And it's not what I see here. I'm also not the biggest "dog" person. Immediately took me out of the trailer.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    edited December 20 Posts: 8,214
    How could you NOT like the dog??

    This is the Superman of the comics finally coming to life.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Everything is relative.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited December 20 Posts: 25,391
    I have always preferred cats to dogs... Lions, Tigers especially.

    After watching the trailer several times Krypto got to me and for a number of reasons.

    Krypto was brilliantly realized, Superman was messed up and Gunn turned a potentially hokey scene into something that had incredible weight to it, it emotionally effected me.

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    Just watched the teaser a few times with exerts of John Williams Destruction of Krypton playing over it. The music is definitely the issue, with a good score these images are very good.

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    We are seven months away... explore other options with the score...
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I watched the trailer and suddenly it dawned on me why the "S" symbol is so radically different from the Reeve and Cavill ones- it's to give Corenswet a break. He's a new Superman, and giving him an "S" associated with another actor would invite unfair comparisons. A bit of genius there, I think. Looking forward to this movie more than most in a LONG time....
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    I'm very excited. I haven't been this excited for a new Superman movie since SUPERMAN II. Although there were elements I liked in both RETURNS and MOS I haven't had much desire to revisit those films.

    I credit SUPERMAN THE MOVIE for making a film buff out of me at a young age. That said, I credit THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN television series for my love of black and white and the Golden Age of Hollywood.

    The new trailer really clicked for me, and triggered memories of reading Action Comics during the spring of 1981 while anticipating SUPERMAN II. I love Corenswet's costume. Mostly going traditional with a bit of modern tweaking. I also love that he's got the \S/ emblem on his cape. For me, that alone makes his suit a cut above every Supersuit since Christopher Reeve.

  • Posts: 12,520
    It cannot be overstated how important and influential the original Donner Superman film is. I would love to have had the chance to see it in the theater when it first came out - that must have been absolutely incredible. II - both cuts, IMO - was the only worthy followup, and those were and still are high-quality superhero films.

    Unfortunately, there’s just no getting away from the fact that live-action standalone Superman films after that have been disappointing. I think III and Returns have some redeemable qualities, but still are inconsistent and fail to capture the magic of the first couple. Then IV and Man of Steel for me, honestly, are both pretty bad. I was okay with Man of Steel when I first saw it, but realized soon enough I was kidding myself, and it just completely misses the mark spiritually. And IV… I mean, I could see it having guilty pleasure potential, but otherwise I think it speaks for itself.

    I really hope this new one can be great, but I’m not going to get my hopes up too much. Even if it ends up being the third best, that doesn’t necessarily guarantee greatness, given where the bar has been set. I want so bad for this series to be great, but there’s much to do and prove to get there. If nothing else, though, we will always have the Christopher Reeve originals and the solid Animated Series!
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    What’s infuriating is that as good as SUPERMAN 78 is, it really shouldn’t be the best Superman film.. There should have been a long line of even more compelling stories. Instead the Salkinds get bright ideas like turning III into a Richard Pryor story for reasons I’m not even sure cocaine can explain.

    It would be like if the Bond franchise never had a film that was as good or better than DR. NO, and the third film gave a significant amount of screen time to Bill Cosby.
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