Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
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    If EON were to receive a good/great script for the next Bond film i'm sure that will get the wheels in motion for the next film ?

    I would imagine P&W have been working on it for awhile now ?
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    My bet is a script is already in progress and Eon is just holding their cards before they get whatever they want from Amazon.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
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    It would be silly by EON if the script for the next Bond is not in progress.

    I don't think getting money from Amazon would be a problem and probably getting a more than decent budget most likely.
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    There's no reason for Eon not to have at least a rough draft of a script in progress
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    Anyone prepared to take a bet there won’t be another one made by Eon?
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    What’s with that thumbnail? What does Brosnan have anything to do with the current predicament?

    Triggered?

    That doesn’t answer my question.

    Doesn't answer mine either.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    There's no reason for Eon not to have at least a rough draft of a script in progress
    I have to assume they do, for my own sanity. Think positive - think of all those little yellow post-it notes stuck to Purvis and Wade's project wall in the boardroom and we'll get through this void. Post-it notes that read, 'check science magazines for ideas'; 'what's happening in technology?'; 'robot sharks?'; 'back to space?'; 'unpopular character spin-off?'; 'modernize Bond without making him black?'; 'recheck science magazines'
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    What’s with that thumbnail? What does Brosnan have anything to do with the current predicament?

    Triggered?

    That doesn’t answer my question.

    Doesn't answer mine either.

    I asked first.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    muzz100 wrote: »
    Anyone prepared to take a bet there won’t be another one made by Eon?

    What odds are you giving?

    What’s with that thumbnail? What does Brosnan have anything to do with the current predicament?

    Triggered?

    That doesn’t answer my question.

    Doesn't answer mine either.

    What’s with that thumbnail? What does Brosnan have anything to do with the current predicament?

    Triggered?

    That doesn’t answer my question.

    Doesn't answer mine either.

    I asked first.


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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Can Amazon really sue EON for downing tools and not getting to work on Bond 26 when EON have helped produce 007: Road to a million and the upcoming CCBB remake? EON are making things for Amazon just not the things they would want to see most of all, so can they be said to be in breach of contract?

    It just occurred to me that the CCBB remake might be to prevent a lawsuit, and drag Bond 26s production into even more uncertainty. Does feel strange that now of all times they suddenly decide to remake the Van Dyke classic.
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    Can Amazon really sue EON for downing tools and not getting to work on Bond 26 when EON have helped produce 007: Road to a million and the upcoming CCBB remake? EON are making things for Amazon just not the things they would want to see most of all, so can they be said to be in breach of contract?

    It just occurred to me that the CCBB remake might be to prevent a lawsuit, and drag Bond 26s production into even more uncertainty. Does feel strange that now of all times they suddenly decide to remake the Van Dyke classic.

    Well, Wicked.

    They are following trends.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited December 26 Posts: 8,460
    I just mean that as long as EON keep busy producing things for MGM to distribute, can Amazon really take any legal action? It's not like there's a specific clause that says a new Bond movie has to go into production every few years.

    It just seems to me that Barbara holds all the cards and theres not much Amazon can do to hurry them along. On a brighter note, while the wait for Bond 26 will be punishing, I believe when it arrives in 2028 or 2029 it will be a spectacular film and a breathe of fresh air for the series. I'd much prefer that to the churning out of mediocre slop that is mildly satiating at best but never truly satisfying, like modern Star Wars and Marvel.
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    QBranch wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    There's no reason for Eon not to have at least a rough draft of a script in progress
    I have to assume they do, for my own sanity. Think positive - think of all those little yellow post-it notes stuck to Purvis and Wade's project wall in the boardroom and we'll get through this void. Post-it notes that read, 'check science magazines for ideas'; 'what's happening in technology?'; 'robot sharks?'; 'back to space?'; 'unpopular character spin-off?'; 'modernize Bond without making him black?'; 'recheck science magazines'

    lol exactly.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    I don't know how these things work, so apologies if this is a bit naive, but for P & W or anyone else to be working on a Bond 26 script, wouldn't they have to be paid for that through one of those particular production companies that EON set up for each film? The writer's union wouldn't let them be doing it for free, right? Yet there aren't any 'Bond 26' companies registered with Companies House. Or are there other mechanisms in place to pay them for any work they might be doing? Dunno.
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
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    It's astonishing that EON is having trouble writing a Bond movie right now. Half the world is on fire, from Ukraine to Gaza. In the US we're dealing with the rise of a real-life Blofeld, right down to the reusable, self-landing rockets. If EON can't figure out how to adapt any of that for a screenplay, I'd assume it's because Babs is still hung up on exploring Bond's emotional states. Her own statements seem to suggest this.

    With the way things are in the world, it should be easier than ever to write a Bond movie without making it too topical. If they can't make it work, it's because they're starting off with the wrong ideas. The world is at its most precarious state since the Cold War. This is precisely the time for the return of the unabashedly heroic James Bond, not more dreary 3-hour metatextual commentaries on his social relevance.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited December 26 Posts: 1,692
    slide_99 wrote: »
    It's astonishing that EON is having trouble writing a Bond movie right now. Half the world is on fire, from Ukraine to Gaza. In the US we're dealing with the rise of a real-life Blofeld, right down to the reusable, self-landing rockets. If EON can't figure out how to adapt any of that for a screenplay, I'd assume it's because Babs is still hung up on exploring Bond's emotional states. Her own statements seem to suggest this.

    With the way things are in the world, it should be easier than ever to write a Bond movie without making it too topical. If they can't make it work, it's because they're starting off with the wrong ideas. The world is at its most precarious state since the Cold War. This is precisely the time for the return of the unabashedly heroic James Bond, not more dreary 3-hour metatextual commentaries on his social relevance.

    Nobody has reported any issues with Eon struggling with a script or not having writers. In fact, it was once reported they may have tipped to Purvis and Wade for a treatment after NTTD, I remember it being mentioned. So I don't know why you suddenly believe the only thing holding B26 back is the writing... that's not the priority if there's clearly issues with the financing and distribution relationship. Stop attacking BB's intelligence it's not a good look and it's obvious where your true issues rest...
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Any work being done on a draft or script is being done with the same secrecy as the Manhattan Project.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Any work being done on a draft or script is being done with the same secrecy as the Manhattan Project.

    Two years ago, on the Empire Film podcast, BB said they would "probably" start work shortly, possibly with Purvis and Wade. So, at some point, she was interested in moving rather soon. That's the last we've heard about writing, but it's also the last we would hear before any official announcement of a full project in development, which maybe isn't happening yet. The only reports we have indicate issues are elsewhere right now.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Pay more attention to your chef
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    slide_99 wrote: »
    It's astonishing that EON is having trouble writing a Bond movie right now. Half the world is on fire, from Ukraine to Gaza. In the US we're dealing with the rise of a real-life Blofeld, right down to the reusable, self-landing rockets. If EON can't figure out how to adapt any of that for a screenplay, I'd assume it's because Babs is still hung up on exploring Bond's emotional states. Her own statements seem to suggest this.

    With the way things are in the world, it should be easier than ever to write a Bond movie without making it too topical. If they can't make it work, it's because they're starting off with the wrong ideas. The world is at its most precarious state since the Cold War. This is precisely the time for the return of the unabashedly heroic James Bond, not more dreary 3-hour metatextual commentaries on his social relevance.

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Any work being done on a draft or script is being done with the same secrecy as the Manhattan Project.

    Two years ago, on the Empire Film podcast, BB said they would "probably" start work shortly, possibly with Purvis and Wade. So, at some point, she was interested in moving rather soon. That's the last we've heard about writing, but it's also the last we would hear before any official announcement of a full project in development, which maybe isn't happening yet. The only reports we have indicate issues are elsewhere right now.

    It is possible that EoN knows exactly what the want to do and have done a significant amount of work; the relationship with Amazon may be complicating moving forward.

    I find it hard to believe that no story and direction development has been begun.
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    Not interested in seeing a Bond film about Musk, Ukraine, or A.I. I can get that from the news any day of the week.
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    Not interested in seeing a Bond film about Musk, Ukraine, or A.I. I can get that from the news any day of the week.

    idk how they could end up making Musk a villain anyways.
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Not interested in seeing a Bond film about Musk, Ukraine, or A.I. I can get that from the news any day of the week.

    idk how they could end up making Musk a villain anyways.

    Well, as Broccoli said herself, they effectively did that in TND.

    Anyway, I think it's clear as there's no information available to us at the moment, there's going to be a tendency to project our own views onto this. EON are fumbling/arguing with Amazon due to a preoccupation with Bond's 'emotional state' (which yes, is stupid and a leap of logic when you think about it). The Bond producers definitely have a script written due to a tenuous quote they said over two years ago (no, in all likelihood no full script has been written, and beyond ideas to go into a pre-production with there's no reason to suggest there's some secret script ready to go). All we can do is wait. This is so beyond most of us unfortunately.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Not interested in seeing a Bond film about Musk, Ukraine, or A.I. I can get that from the news any day of the week.

    idk how they could end up making Musk a villain anyways.

    This is, ironically, what P&W said about you-know-who a while back. Basically, there is little difference between the fictional and real world when it comes to corruption and villany.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Not interested in seeing a Bond film about Musk, Ukraine, or A.I. I can get that from the news any day of the week.

    idk how they could end up making Musk a villain anyways.

    Well, as Broccoli said herself, they effectively did that in TND.

    Yeah, as Musk is apparently trying to style himself on a Bond villain and is doing all of these obviously objectionable things, having a baddie in an actual Bond film styled on him would be like a weird recursive bit of feedback, and the character wouldn't be particularly interesting or original as a result.
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    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Not interested in seeing a Bond film about Musk, Ukraine, or A.I. I can get that from the news any day of the week.

    idk how they could end up making Musk a villain anyways.

    Well, as Broccoli said herself, they effectively did that in TND.

    Yeah, as Musk is apparently trying to style himself on a Bond villain and is doing all of these obviously objectionable things, having a baddie in an actual Bond film styled on him would be like a weird recursive bit of feedback, and the character wouldn't be particularly interesting or original as a result.

    At this rate I'm holding out for a villain who, very broadly, follows some sort of logical 'algorithm' type thing or eschews using gut instinct. Can't say that's not topical for EON.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Not interested in seeing a Bond film about Musk, Ukraine, or A.I. I can get that from the news any day of the week.

    idk how they could end up making Musk a villain anyways.

    Well, as Broccoli said herself, they effectively did that in TND.

    Yeah, as Musk is apparently trying to style himself on a Bond villain and is doing all of these obviously objectionable things, having a baddie in an actual Bond film styled on him would be like a weird recursive bit of feedback, and the character wouldn't be particularly interesting or original as a result.

    At this rate I'm holding out for a villain who, very broadly, follows some sort of logical 'algorithm' type thing or eschews using gut instinct. Can't say that's not topical for EON.

    LOL. So the villain and Bond are basically Amazon and Eon?

    It's not a bad idea at that.
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
    edited December 26 Posts: 704
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Stop attacking BB's intelligence it's not a good look and it's obvious where your true issues rest...

    ???
    I never had a problem with her running the series until around SP or so, if that's what you're implying.
  • edited December 27 Posts: 2,002
    I do think Barbara let Craig have too much power when it came to his last 2 movies. I still to this day don't really know how Craig’s contracts for his bond movies were. Like was his first three films locked in when he first signed in 2005 and then his last two were on a film by film bases? I think whoever the new Bond is needs to get locked down to at least four movies.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    No film this size is ever the result of one or two people calling the shots. These are collaborative efforts involving many minds, hands and creative decisions. Broccoli and Craig alone did not make or break SP and NTTD. Writers, editors, producers (plural), cast, composer, cinematographer, technicians, ... all have something to do with it. The stubborn notion that a smitten "Babs" and a too cynical, too powerful Craig are, alone, responsible for the outcome of the recent two films, sadly persists.
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