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Count me in as a @mtm fan. Even if we don't agree on something, we don't argue about it, to the point of disrespecting each other.
After all, a woman has helmed this franchise since 1995, and I've never seen that be identified as a problem by anyone here.
“You must give me the name of your occultist!” ;)
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Common sense still exists it seems. Good man @Bond. Salke is indeed a woman who had no business helming the post she had and was rambling on about toxic masculinity. She had the audacity to annoy Barbara to no end with her uninformed bs regarding Bond. So, the alpha lady (Barbara) showed Salke who's who and probably got her ass fired, indirectly. Good riddance indeed.
Well not really; just identifying or accusing something of being part of toxic masculinity doesn't make you toxic yourself, otherwise any man accusing her of being guilty of toxic femininity would automatically be an example of toxic masculinity themselves. It doesn't really work like that.
Arf! :)) Yes indeed!
This word salad tastes yucky. The gift that keeps on giving.
Glorious indeed.
Thank you @mtm - I had that one on reserve for just such an occasion!
Quite sure the screenwriter meant *sexy
It was a different time, I don't think you can really compare. It never felt like GoldenEye as a whole was trying to portray M's opinion as gospel, it was just her opinion... the script still treated Bond with respect and not as a misogynist dinosaur worthy of contempt. Same with Terminator 2 in 1991 where Sarah Connor goes on a rant against men, the script and theme of the film as a whole wasn't pushing the same message of what she was saying, or if it was, it was at least subtle. At the time it was understood that these characters were representing only themselves and weren't necessarily vehicles for the writers' opinions. We also hadn't yet had "Mary Sue girlboss power" overload at that point.
Yes social media has changed everything, but regardless of that all subtlety has disappeared in much of Hollywood's writing in recent years, and some people have come to instinctively groan and roll their eyes now when things like that are said in movies or shows because usually it'll be accompanied by other obvious progressive pushing narratives in the film and (now tired) tropes such as the Mary Sue and in addition the press will likely be gushing about it and how it's "first female" this or "powerful feminist" that and praising the film based on that rather than its merits. It's calmed down a bit in the last couple of years, but that's how it's been in the last decade or so.
Well played.
Hey, I said it was wrong.
Goddangit, the post is strong with this one. Literally no fat and all truth. Impressive. Let me hand you this digital brewski 🍺
@MakeshiftPython Ha, better make that two 🍻
Two cents: Look at what's happening to the Snow White film. People have had it with these narratives and certain agendas, same with RoP and many other productions. Amazon know this now. They put in hundreds of millions of dollars into dei bogus and got the backlash. Result: Salke fired, two top producers helming Bond, no room for shits n giggles anymore. Everything is on the line.
My issues with Salke are purely down to rumors that she hasn’t watched any film made before 1980. As the head of a film studio, that should be a cardinal sin - at least in my opinion.
Being that the rumors of Pascal and Heyman producing Bond 26 turned out to be true, I think we can take seriously the speculation that Cuarón pitched his Bond take. Not saying that you’re necessarily wrong but Amazon seems to be fast tracking production. I bet a director and screenwriter come on board before the beginning of Summer. The new Bond will take longer to find, but if it’s Cuarón and he already has a
What’s toxic about Salke’s femininity? Do I like some of her creative choices? No. Am I glad she’s not overseeing Bond? Yes. Is she a professional with a successful track record and some flops? Yes. But what creative doesn’t?
Gosh, yes, that is a strange take; and easily disprovable as you say. To be honest I don't think it would have been as bad then if social media had been around when that came out: in the 90s and 2000s attitudes were a bit more open about these things, albeit still pretty regressive in some ways with the lads mags etc. There wasn't any pushback about the 'misogynist dinosaur' stuff, it was generally just seen as a fun new direction as far as I can remember. But some men seem to be a lot more uptight and threatened by anything like that nowadays and feel they have to fight against it, I feel like we've gone backwards in a lot of ways.
Over Christmas there were people complaining that the BBC screened an episode of Blankety Blank with a drag queen as one of the panellists: twenty years ago it used to be hosted by one, and no one blinked an eye.
Are there actually solid-ish Cuarón rumours or is it just coming from extrapolation of his previous working relationship with Heyman?
Psst, don't let them read this article, as the truth could hurt...
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/07/amazon-scrubs-dei-mention-from-its-annual-report.html
No, that's not really on. By its nature it calls into question how any woman would be in a senior position, which is not an attitude which can really function when it means regarding half the population of the planet with suspicion. It's not as if all men are exactly perfect winners, I'm sure there's plenty of male executives with equally dodgy or worse records - look at the amount of Electric State/Ghosted style crap coming out of the streamers, how did those guys get their jobs? Did they deserve them?
There's a strange myth about diversity which means that talented men are getting shunted aside in favour of promoting the cleaning lady or something, whereas that's not how it works.
They should've thought about that before they put in quotas. Take that up with them, not with me. And please show me the executives who green-lighted Ghosted.
Just to repeat myself, thinking that diversity works by promoting less talented people is to misunderstand it. If all men are infallible then there's some pretty high profile examples to prove otherwise doing the rounds at the moment, in many walks of professional life. Making this about her gender is a very specific choice, unless you want to question how every man who does a bad job got his position too.
Anyway, the way this is going puts a very bad taste in my mouth, I'll leave you to it.
You mean 46 the one using autopen? the one locking up people for praying outside clinics? He's the one who championed diversity hiring, so it looks like we're in agreement over how we shouldn't hire talentless people. When you put race and gender above all, you're by definition not looking at merit.
In fact, nowadays the Silva flirting with Bond scene in Skyfall would be considered "woke".
Whatever decisions they take with Bond's character, I won't be surprised if people have over the top reactions.
Talentless people still somehow get work. Look no further than Uwe Boll’s latest thriller; The Dark Knight starring Armie Hammer.
I’m not even joking this is a real project.