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  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    Theojw71 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Theojw71 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Theojw71 wrote: »
    Anybody notice that Bond’s sailing yacht in the Jamaica shots is the same one he had in Casino Royale with Vesper Lynd in Venice, but now with a coat of blue paint on the hull instead of white.

    Wonder if she’s called the “Vesper”?

    Not the same boat. Same brand thought.

    “Same brand”? The original boat in CR was “Spirit” by Spirit Yachts, a hand-built sloop that then re-sold for $600,000. The presence in this film and those images of a yacht with a matching hull design is not accidental as it would need to have been commissioned specifically by the production team for Bond’s use now he is retired.

    This one looks like the Spirit 44e (electric powered), with the navy hull. I’d still like to see the “Vesper” name on the stern, though.

    I know, but it was a Spirit 45 and this, as you say, is probably the 44e. I was just proposing it wasn't the same boat, that's all. The world "brand" doesn't apply too well to hand-built sloops, but I used it just to make this point, as you may very well understand.

    The way he handled that VHS in SP, I doubt Bond dwells in the past and has romanticism enough in him to call the boat "Vesper". He could call it "dead bitch" though ;) - damn, that was harsh. Oh well, his words, not mine.

    Good points. And looking again I’ve changed my mind. There are fewer portals in the body, so it is obviously NOT intended to be the same boat after all. Rather, I think it’s product placement at work again, like when Glastron used to provide 007’s boats.
    I never noticed nor looked at the brand of Bond's boats.

    But who am I...
  • leas_moleleas_mole love is the promise of suffering
    Posts: 574
    jake24 wrote: »

    is this the WTF moment they were referring to a few days ago?

  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
    Posts: 575
    leas_mole wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »

    is this the WTF moment they were referring to a few days ago?

    It seems to fit
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2019 Posts: 5,970
    leas_mole wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »

    is this the WTF moment they were referring to a few days ago?
    I thought it might be. It's not the first time we've heard about this "grave visit".

    Although whether its true or not I'm not sure. It may just be a baseless rumour.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    Theojw71 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Theojw71 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Theojw71 wrote: »
    Anybody notice that Bond’s sailing yacht in the Jamaica shots is the same one he had in Casino Royale with Vesper Lynd in Venice, but now with a coat of blue paint on the hull instead of white.

    Wonder if she’s called the “Vesper”?

    Not the same boat. Same brand thought.

    “Same brand”? The original boat in CR was “Spirit” by Spirit Yachts, a hand-built sloop that then re-sold for $600,000. The presence in this film and those images of a yacht with a matching hull design is not accidental as it would need to have been commissioned specifically by the production team for Bond’s use now he is retired.

    This one looks like the Spirit 44e (electric powered), with the navy hull. I’d still like to see the “Vesper” name on the stern, though.

    I know, but it was a Spirit 45 and this, as you say, is probably the 44e. I was just proposing it wasn't the same boat, that's all. The world "brand" doesn't apply too well to hand-built sloops, but I used it just to make this point, as you may very well understand.

    The way he handled that VHS in SP, I doubt Bond dwells in the past and has romanticism enough in him to call the boat "Vesper". He could call it "dead bitch" though ;) - damn, that was harsh. Oh well, his words, not mine.

    Good points. And looking again I’ve changed my mind. There are fewer portals in the body, so it is obviously NOT intended to be the same boat after all. Rather, I think it’s product placement at work again, like when Glastron used to provide 007’s boats.

    In the Moore days, right? The LALT speedboat and the Q-Boat in MR, amongst others I presume.

    Good eyes, @Theojw71. In this case and in Omega and AM's case as well, I really don't mind the product placement. Fleming did it profusely ;)
  • TR007TR007
    Posts: 1,165
    jake24 wrote: »
    Interesting. I look forward to seeing how such a scene would fit with the rest of the story.

  • octofingeroctofinger
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    talos7 wrote: »
    SharkBait wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Craig looks at the top of his game, the best since CR.

    Yep. If there's no long gaps between the films, I could easily see him pull a fifth film.

    I agree, ideally they would be ready to shoot within a year of the release of 25; this would facilitate a two year gap between 25 and 26. Or the shot a year and a half out and release wit three years apart.
    In this era though, I don’t see this happening .

    It's a case of being careful what we wish for. Selfishly, I'd love more Craig films. But the odds of a clanger go up exponentially as time wears on, and I'd rather he do no film than a geriatric travesty like AVTAK.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited May 2019 Posts: 8,217
    octofinger wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    SharkBait wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Craig looks at the top of his game, the best since CR.

    Yep. If there's no long gaps between the films, I could easily see him pull a fifth film.

    I agree, ideally they would be ready to shoot within a year of the release of 25; this would facilitate a two year gap between 25 and 26. Or the shot a year and a half out and release wit three years apart.
    In this era though, I don’t see this happening .

    It's a case of being careful what we wish for. Selfishly, I'd love more Craig films. But the odds of a clanger go up exponentially as time wears on, and I'd rather he do no film than a geriatric travesty like AVTAK.

    Absolutely, an (American) football coach one said something to the effect ‘ it’s better to let a great player go a little too soon than a little too late.
    Even if they knock it out of the park, it’s time to move on.
    That also lets Dan go out on a high note.

  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 1,165
    TR007 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Interesting. I look forward to seeing how such a scene would fit with the rest of the story.

    I would unironically love it if they redid the FYEO opening with Craig and Waltz. I’d bust a freaking gut!
  • Tuck91Tuck91
    Posts: 1,680
    Minion wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Interesting. I look forward to seeing how such a scene would fit with the rest of the story.

    I would unironically love it if they redid the FYEO opening with Craig and Waltz. I’d bust a freaking gut!
    the helicopter scene would fit in good with Craig trying to escape remote control airways

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Cuckoooooooooo!
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    talos7 wrote: »
    octofinger wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    SharkBait wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Craig looks at the top of his game, the best since CR.

    Yep. If there's no long gaps between the films, I could easily see him pull a fifth film.

    I agree, ideally they would be ready to shoot within a year of the release of 25; this would facilitate a two year gap between 25 and 26. Or the shot a year and a half out and release wit three years apart.
    In this era though, I don’t see this happening .

    It's a case of being careful what we wish for. Selfishly, I'd love more Craig films. But the odds of a clanger go up exponentially as time wears on, and I'd rather he do no film than a geriatric travesty like AVTAK.

    Absolutely, an (American) football coach one said something to the effect ‘ it’s better to let a great player go a little too soon than a little too late.
    Even if they knock it out of the park, it’s time to move on.
    That also lets Dan go out on a high note.

    I said it on another thread: it's better to leave the audience wanting more...

    I will be gutted to see DC leave, but I rather he kill this last film and walk away golden. He deserves it. He's given us a great run.

    I think CF and he are on a mission; if they succeed, I don't want one more film to sully an outstanding era (unless they're somehow shooting back-to-back Bond 25 & 26)... Enjoy Craig's last. Enjoy the tidbits and rumours, and pics we get (and no, no, no, those "painted" abs?? They're not painted! He prepped for the role like an animal. The one friend I know who is close to Gregg (and who let me know about Jamaica (as well as a few other things), said this man was living and breathing in the gym for every waking moment after KNIVES OUT. No booze (and DC likes his pints), no bad food-- just clean food and training)).

    No matter if one likes his portrayal or not, no one can say he's not a professional to prepare and give us his all as his 007... (personally, he and Connery are far and above the others, and DC's last will be bitter sweet for me on so many levels)); he came back to not be embarrassed. He came back for B25 to kick ass.
  • BonSimonLeBon_1BonSimonLeBon_1
    Posts: 2,436
    leas_mole wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »

    is this the WTF moment they were referring to a few days ago?


    If so not sure why it warrants a 'WTF'. Fleming's Bond visits Vesper's grave. If true it only feeds the very Fleming vibe I'm getting from Bond 25, which is surely only a good thing.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,636
    peter wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    octofinger wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    SharkBait wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Craig looks at the top of his game, the best since CR.

    Yep. If there's no long gaps between the films, I could easily see him pull a fifth film.

    I agree, ideally they would be ready to shoot within a year of the release of 25; this would facilitate a two year gap between 25 and 26. Or the shot a year and a half out and release wit three years apart.
    In this era though, I don’t see this happening .

    It's a case of being careful what we wish for. Selfishly, I'd love more Craig films. But the odds of a clanger go up exponentially as time wears on, and I'd rather he do no film than a geriatric travesty like AVTAK.

    Absolutely, an (American) football coach one said something to the effect ‘ it’s better to let a great player go a little too soon than a little too late.
    Even if they knock it out of the park, it’s time to move on.
    That also lets Dan go out on a high note.

    I said it on another thread: it's better to leave the audience wanting more...

    I will be gutted to see DC leave, but I rather he kill this last film and walk away golden. He deserves it. He's given us a great run.

    I think CF and he are on a mission; if they succeed, I don't want one more film to sully an outstanding era (unless they're somehow shooting back-to-back Bond 25 & 26)... Enjoy Craig's last. Enjoy the tidbits and rumours, and pics we get (and no, no, no, those "painted" abs?? They're not painted! He prepped for the role like an animal. The one friend I know who is close to Gregg (and who let me know about Jamaica (as well as a few other things), said this man was living and breathing in the gym for every waking moment after KNIVES OUT. No booze (and DC likes his pints), no bad food-- just clean food and training)).

    No matter if one likes his portrayal or not, no one can say he's not a professional to prepare and give us his all as his 007... (personally, he and Connery are far and above the others, and DC's last will be bitter sweet for me on so many levels)); he came back to not be embarrassed. He came back for B25 to kick ass.

    CF said there's characters that he hasn't announced. Does your friend know any of these surprises?
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    BonSimonLeBon_1 wrote: »
    leas_mole wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »

    is this the WTF moment they were referring to a few days ago?


    If so not sure why it warrants a 'WTF'. Fleming's Bond visits Vesper's grave. If true it only feeds the very Fleming vibe I'm getting from Bond 25, which is surely only a good thing.

    Agreed.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
    Posts: 1,680
    I wonder if this film will hit the 2 hour and 50 minute mark.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,217
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I wonder if this film will hit the 2 hour and 50 minute mark.

    No way, 2:20 on the outside.

  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,304
    talos7 wrote: »
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I wonder if this film will hit the 2 hour and 50 minute mark.

    No way, 2:20 on the outside.

    Less is Moore.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,217
    echo wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I wonder if this film will hit the 2 hour and 50 minute mark.

    No way, 2:20 on the outside.

    Less is Moore.

    Roger that ! ;)

  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,585
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I wonder if this film will hit the 2 hour and 50 minute mark.

    If it’s good,I hope so.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I wonder if this film will hit the 2 hour and 50 minute mark.

    I hope not.
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited May 2019 Posts: 11,425
    2 50 is way too long for a Bond film. Personally I think they should generally aim to come in under 2. More than that should be the exception and not the rule.

    Many of the recent films have much lower rewatch value not least because they drag.
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 1,165
    If OHMSS can tell it’s story in under two and a half hours, so too should Bond 25... unless it honestly has a scope that warrants it.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,124
    RC7 wrote: »
    I’m not conviced Malek’s character will be striving to take on the role of No.1 - primarily because I’m not sure the audience would care.

    However, I’d be up for him being a ruthless ex-member who in the intervening years has formed a new organisation, built from the ashes of the old Spectre - gives us a fresh threat, while maintaining a connective thread.

    A sort of Bane @RC7?
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited May 2019 Posts: 11,425
    Ludovico wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    I’m not conviced Malek’s character will be striving to take on the role of No.1 - primarily because I’m not sure the audience would care.

    However, I’d be up for him being a ruthless ex-member who in the intervening years has formed a new organisation, built from the ashes of the old Spectre - gives us a fresh threat, while maintaining a connective thread.

    A sort of Bane @RC7?

    Or a spin on The Force Awakens?

    Malek's character is a Blofeld tribute act like Kylo Ren is to Darth Vader.

    Like the loons who worship and emulate Anders Breivik, Malek's character is inspired by what he's read about Blofeld online. A sort of copycat world domination obsessive.
  • craig2019craig2019 Jamaica
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  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    octofinger wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    SharkBait wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Craig looks at the top of his game, the best since CR.

    Yep. If there's no long gaps between the films, I could easily see him pull a fifth film.

    I agree, ideally they would be ready to shoot within a year of the release of 25; this would facilitate a two year gap between 25 and 26. Or the shot a year and a half out and release wit three years apart.
    In this era though, I don’t see this happening .

    It's a case of being careful what we wish for. Selfishly, I'd love more Craig films. But the odds of a clanger go up exponentially as time wears on, and I'd rather he do no film than a geriatric travesty like AVTAK.

    Absolutely, an (American) football coach one said something to the effect ‘ it’s better to let a great player go a little too soon than a little too late.
    Even if they knock it out of the park, it’s time to move on.
    That also lets Dan go out on a high note.

    I said it on another thread: it's better to leave the audience wanting more...

    I will be gutted to see DC leave, but I rather he kill this last film and walk away golden. He deserves it. He's given us a great run.

    I think CF and he are on a mission; if they succeed, I don't want one more film to sully an outstanding era (unless they're somehow shooting back-to-back Bond 25 & 26)... Enjoy Craig's last. Enjoy the tidbits and rumours, and pics we get (and no, no, no, those "painted" abs?? They're not painted! He prepped for the role like an animal. The one friend I know who is close to Gregg (and who let me know about Jamaica (as well as a few other things), said this man was living and breathing in the gym for every waking moment after KNIVES OUT. No booze (and DC likes his pints), no bad food-- just clean food and training)).

    No matter if one likes his portrayal or not, no one can say he's not a professional to prepare and give us his all as his 007... (personally, he and Connery are far and above the others, and DC's last will be bitter sweet for me on so many levels)); he came back to not be embarrassed. He came back for B25 to kick ass.

    CF said there's characters that he hasn't announced. Does your friend know any of these surprises?

    Unfortunately/fortunately not, @MaxCasino
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    craig2019 wrote: »

    Sod off already.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 2,641
    If Bond goes to Vesper's grave alone and lays some flowers, cool, I'm fine with that nice nod to Casino and the Vesper arch but if he takes Madeline it, just looks like the filmmakers are running out of ideas and it makes Bond look weak mentally like he can't move on.
    He should carry the weight of Vesper like a hidden scar not an open wound.

    That aside, the set pictures we've seen have really filled me with a lot of hope. It seems the film is coming along nicely. Not sure what to make of that Malek pic, time will tell
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    If Bond goes to Vesper's grave alone and lays some flowers, cool, I'm fine with that nice nod to Casino and the Vesper arch but if he takes Madeline it, just looks like the filmmakers are running out of ideas and it makes Bond look weak mentally like he can't move on.
    He should carry the weight of Vesper like a hidden scar not an open wound.

    That aside, the set pictures we've seen have really filled me with a lot of hope. It seems the film is coming along nicely. Not sure what to make of that Malek pic, time will tell

    Fake.
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